Ebay (potential) fraud alert

Surfing through eBay I noticed several Imac G5 computers for sale, but
listed under categories like jewelry, toy trains, etc. The seller is
mob45 with 311 feedbacks 100% positive.

However, the listing asks to send email to an aol account "before
taking any action". Contacted via eBay, "seller" says I only sell toy
trains, contact the aol guy. The aol guy wants payment by WU, offering
to sell for 800 when bids are already above that amount.

I must say I am extremely confused. Any guesses? If this smells of a
hijacked account, anybody knows how to alert eBay?

In article <290320051850048959%newbie@no.spam>, Newbie <newbie@no.spam>
wrote:

> Surfing through eBay I noticed several Imac G5 computers for sale, but
> listed under categories like jewelry, toy trains, etc. The seller is
> mob45 with 311 feedbacks 100% positive.
>
> However, the listing asks to send email to an aol account "before
> taking any action". Contacted via eBay, "seller" says I only sell toy
> trains, contact the aol guy. The aol guy wants payment by WU, offering
> to sell for 800 when bids are already above that amount.
>
> I must say I am extremely confused. Any guesses? If this smells of a
> hijacked account, anybody knows how to alert eBay?

WU is the trigger. It's almost certainly a scam.

Contact ebay here:
<http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/?ssPageName=home:f:f:US>

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In article <290320051850048959%newbie@no.spam>, Newbie <newbie@no.spam>
wrote:

> Surfing through eBay I noticed several Imac G5 computers for sale, but
> listed under categories like jewelry, toy trains, etc. The seller is
> mob45 with 311 feedbacks 100% positive.
>
> However, the listing asks to send email to an aol account "before
> taking any action". Contacted via eBay, "seller" says I only sell toy
> trains, contact the aol guy. The aol guy wants payment by WU, offering
> to sell for 800 when bids are already above that amount.
>
> I must say I am extremely confused. Any guesses? If this smells of a
> hijacked account, anybody knows how to alert eBay?

Can you give more details, like the ID number for the G5 iMac that this
person is offering.

I checked the listings for mob45 and he is only listing items related to
model trains and is not offering any computers. You might have the
persons User Name wrong.

As a seller on eBay I'm very concerned about weeding out fraudulent
sellers as they damage the experience for others.

Gerry (who has an eBay rating over 1,000)

"Newbie" <newbie@no.spam> wrote in message
news:290320051850048959%newbie@no.spam...
> Surfing through eBay I noticed several Imac G5 computers for sale, but
> listed under categories like jewelry, toy trains, etc. The seller is
> mob45 with 311 feedbacks 100% positive.
>
> However, the listing asks to send email to an aol account "before
> taking any action". Contacted via eBay, "seller" says I only sell toy
> trains, contact the aol guy. The aol guy wants payment by WU, offering
> to sell for 800 when bids are already above that amount.
>
> I must say I am extremely confused. Any guesses? If this smells of a
> hijacked account, anybody knows how to alert eBay?

Listing are gone! I Saw Newbie's previous post and rechecked the item #'s
just now and they no longer exist. I did see the G5 listed under jewelry. I
also noticed the replies to the earlier post are missing as well... Hmmm. An
inside job?

Gerry <XYZ@ABC.org> wrote:

: Can you give more details, like the ID number for the G5 iMac that this
: person is offering.
:
: I checked the listings for mob45 and he is only listing items related to
: model trains and is not offering any computers. You might have the
: persons User Name wrong.
:
: As a seller on eBay I'm very concerned about weeding out fraudulent
: sellers as they damage the experience for others.
:
: Gerry (who has an eBay rating over 1,000)

I reported them to eBay, besides posting here, and others may have too,
and they have been removed. I had placed 3 items on my watch list:
#s 5966386810, 5966392047, 5966391702.
They were all G5 Imac computers listed in weird categories.

Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:

: WU is the trigger. It's almost certainly a scam.
:
: Contact ebay here:
: <http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/?ssPageName=home:f:f:US>

Thank you. I did report and (taking no credit, eBay may have heard from
others too) they are removed.

Gerry <XYZ@ABC.org> wrote:

: Can you give more details, like the ID number for the G5 iMac that this
: person is offering.
:
: I checked the listings for mob45 and he is only listing items related to
: model trains and is not offering any computers. You might have the
: persons User Name wrong.
:
: As a seller on eBay I'm very concerned about weeding out fraudulent
: sellers as they damage the experience for others.
:
: Gerry (who has an eBay rating over 1,000)

Besides posting here I reported them to eBay (thanks to Dave
Balderstone above in thread), others may have too, and they have been
removed. I had placed 3 items on my watch list:
#s 5966386810, 5966392047, 5966391702.
They were all G5 Imac computers listed in weird categories.

I don't have the seller account wrong. The following is an exact email
received from the "seller" (hijacked account I believe) via eBay system
(edited to remove personal info):

================================================== ==

Subject: Response to your question for item #5966391702 - Apple iMac
G5 20" 1.8 GHZ1GB SDRAM BRAND NEW APPLECARE

Marketplace Safety Tips: http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter

If this email is an offer to directly sell you an item without bidding
on and winning the item on eBay, please report it to us immediately at
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies...-ebay-sale.html and do
not respond. An offer to sell an item directly to another eBay member
through email violates eBay rules. It is also extremely unsafe to
purchase an item through this email system regardless of the seller's
claims or feedback, as you lose the benefit of eBay's purchase
protection programs and risk losing your money.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Dear ****,

"Have you actually listed mac computers in jewelry and trains sections?
What's the deal with asking to email first? Usually these are signs of
an hijacked account. But if you really are selling them, let me know."

wrong site - contact seller at mevexim@aol.com
mob45 sell model trains only, thank you

To bid or purchase this item, go to:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=5966391702

================================================== ======================
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Item # / Item Title End Date
================================================== ======================
========
5966391702 01-Apr-05
Apple iMac G5 20" 1.8 GHZ1GB SDRAM BRAND NEW APPLECARE


Thank you,
mob45
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"Newbie" <newbie@no.spam> wrote in message
news:290320052118051811%newbie@no.spam...
>
> I don't have the seller account wrong. The following is an exact email
> received from the "seller" (hijacked account I believe) via eBay system
> (edited to remove personal info):
>
> ================================================== ==
>
> Subject: Response to your question for item #5966391702 - Apple iMac
> G5 20" 1.8 GHZ1GB SDRAM BRAND NEW APPLECARE
>
(snip)
>
> Dear ****,
>
> "Have you actually listed mac computers in jewelry and trains sections?
> What's the deal with asking to email first? Usually these are signs of
> an hijacked account. But if you really are selling them, let me know."
>
> wrong site - contact seller at mevexim@aol.com
> mob45 sell model trains only, thank you

Doesn't look hijacked to me. If it were, why would mob45 refer
you to the other guy at the other email address? Looks like
he was letting a friend list under his ID, and got caught.....or
trying to make it look like he *was* hijacked.
Kris

Kris Baker <kris.baker@prodigyy.net> wrote:

: Doesn't look hijacked to me. If it were, why would mob45 refer
: you to the other guy at the other email address? Looks like
: he was letting a friend list under his ID, and got caught.....or
: trying to make it look like he *was* hijacked.

You are right. However, seeing the perfect FB score i was giving him
the benefit of doubt that maybe both his eBay and email accts were
hijacked.

: Kris
:
:

Gerry <XYZ@ABC.org> wrote:

: Can you give more details, like the ID number for the G5 iMac that this
: person is offering.
:
: I checked the listings for mob45 and he is only listing items related to
: model trains and is not offering any computers. You might have the
: persons User Name wrong.
:
: As a seller on eBay I'm very concerned about weeding out fraudulent
: sellers as they damage the experience for others.
:
: Gerry (who has an eBay rating over 1,000)

Besides posting here I reported them to eBay (thanks to Dave
Balderstone above in thread), others may have too, and they have been
removed. I had placed 3 items on my watch list:
#s 5966386810, 5966392047, 5966391702.
They were all G5 Imac computers listed in weird categories.

I don't have the seller account wrong. The following is an exact email
received from the "seller" (hijacked account I believe) via eBay system
(edited to remove personal info):

================================================== ==

Subject: Response to your question for item #5966391702 - Apple iMac
G5 20" 1.8 GHZ1GB SDRAM BRAND NEW APPLECARE

Marketplace Safety Tips: http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter

If this email is an offer to directly sell you an item without bidding
on and winning the item on eBay, please report it to us immediately at
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies...-ebay-sale.html and do
not respond. An offer to sell an item directly to another eBay member
through email violates eBay rules. It is also extremely unsafe to
purchase an item through this email system regardless of the seller's
claims or feedback, as you lose the benefit of eBay's purchase
protection programs and risk losing your money.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

------

Dear ****,

"Have you actually listed mac computers in jewelry and trains sections?
What's the deal with asking to email first? Usually these are signs of
an hijacked account. But if you really are selling them, let me know."

wrong site - contact seller at mevexim@aol.com
mob45 sell model trains only, thank you

To bid or purchase this item, go to:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=5966391702

================================================== ======================
========
Item # / Item Title End Date
================================================== ======================
========
5966391702 01-Apr-05
Apple iMac G5 20" 1.8 GHZ1GB SDRAM BRAND NEW APPLECARE


Thank you,
mob45
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

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registered.

eBay treats your personal information with the utmost care, and our
Privacy Policy is designed to protect you and your information. eBay
will
never ask their users for personal information, such as bank account
numbers, credit card numbers, pin numbers, passwords, or Social
Security
numbers in an email. For more information on how to protect your eBay
password and your account, please visit
http://pages.ebay.com/help/account_protection.html.

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Gerry <XYZ@ABC.org> wrote:

: Can you give more details, like the ID number for the G5 iMac that this
: person is offering.
:
: I checked the listings for mob45 and he is only listing items related to
: model trains and is not offering any computers. You might have the
: persons User Name wrong.
:
: As a seller on eBay I'm very concerned about weeding out fraudulent
: sellers as they damage the experience for others.
:
: Gerry (who has an eBay rating over 1,000)

Besides posting here I reported them to eBay (thanks to Dave
Balderstone above in thread), others may have too, and they have been
removed. I had placed 3 items on my watch list:
#s 5966386810, 5966392047, 5966391702.
They were all G5 Imac computers listed in weird categories.

I don't have the seller account wrong. The following is an exact email
received from the "seller" (hijacked account I believe) via eBay system
(edited to remove personal info):

================================================== ==

Subject: Response to your question for item #5966391702 - Apple iMac
G5 20" 1.8 GHZ1GB SDRAM BRAND NEW APPLECARE

Marketplace Safety Tips: http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter

If this email is an offer to directly sell you an item without bidding
on and winning the item on eBay, please report it to us immediately at
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies...-ebay-sale.html and do
not respond. An offer to sell an item directly to another eBay member
through email violates eBay rules. It is also extremely unsafe to
purchase an item through this email system regardless of the seller's
claims or feedback, as you lose the benefit of eBay's purchase
protection programs and risk losing your money.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear ****,

"Have you actually listed mac computers in jewelry and trains sections?
What's the deal with asking to email first? Usually these are signs of
an hijacked account. But if you really are selling them, let me know."

wrong site - contact seller at mevexim@aol.com
mob45 sell model trains only, thank you

To bid or purchase this item, go to:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=5966391702

================================================== ======================
========
Item # / Item Title End Date
================================================== ======================
========
5966391702 01-Apr-05
Apple iMac G5 20" 1.8 GHZ1GB SDRAM BRAND NEW APPLECARE


Thank you,
mob45
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Security
numbers in an email. For more information on how to protect your eBay
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"AKT" <akt@null.void> wrote in message
news:290320052148472344%akt@null.void...
> Gerry <XYZ@ABC.org> wrote:
>
> : Can you give more details, like the ID number for the G5 iMac that this
> : person is offering.

"Newbie" <newbie@no.spam> wrote in message
news:290320052150580155%newbie@no.spam...
> Gerry <XYZ@ABC.org> wrote:
>
> : Can you give more details, like the ID number for the G5 iMac that this
> : person is offering.

How come you two are posting identical messages, with
no replies....?

Kris

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:00:24 GMT, in alt.marketing.online.ebay "Kris Baker"
<kris.baker@prodigyy.net> wrote:

>
>"AKT" <akt@null.void> wrote in message
>news:290320052148472344%akt@null.void...
>> Gerry <XYZ@ABC.org> wrote:
>>
>> : Can you give more details, like the ID number for the G5 iMac that this
>> : person is offering.
>
>"Newbie" <newbie@no.spam> wrote in message
>news:290320052150580155%newbie@no.spam...
>> Gerry <XYZ@ABC.org> wrote:
>>
>> : Can you give more details, like the ID number for the G5 iMac that this
>> : person is offering.
>
>How come you two are posting identical messages, with
>no replies....?
>
>Kris
>


Because you are a whore.

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:50:03 GMT, Newbie <newbie@no.spam> wrote:

>However, the listing asks to send email to an aol account "before
>taking any action". Contacted via eBay, "seller" says I only sell toy
>trains, contact the aol guy. The aol guy wants payment by WU, offering
>to sell for 800 when bids are already above that amount.

It smells to high heaven like a scam including the Western Union
payment. Stay away.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Kris Baker <kris.baker@prodigyy.net> wrote:

: How come you two are posting identical messages, with
: no replies....?

My error, apologies, etc. Just ignore that confusion. A few family
members share this computer and what happens is that A forgets to sign
out and B starts surfing and posts something which goes under A's name.
If I notice this, I correct it by canceling the first post and sending
another one with right name. Ideally the first post should just
disappear but maybe it survives here and there.

In article <yZednZK1C-uvm9ffRVn-vA@comcast.com>,
Chris \(the other one\) <nospam> wrote:
>.spam...
>> Surfing through eBay I noticed several Imac G5 computers for sale, but
>> listed under categories like jewelry, toy trains, etc. The seller is
>> mob45 with 311 feedbacks 100% positive.
>>
>> However, the listing asks to send email to an aol account "before
>> taking any action". Contacted via eBay, "seller" says I only sell toy
>> trains, contact the aol guy. The aol guy wants payment by WU, offering
>> to sell for 800 when bids are already above that amount.
>>
>> I must say I am extremely confused. Any guesses? If this smells of a
>> hijacked account, anybody knows how to alert eBay?
>
>Listing are gone! I Saw Newbie's previous post and rechecked the item #'s
>just now and they no longer exist. I did see the G5 listed under jewelry. I
>also noticed the replies to the earlier post are missing as well... Hmmm. An
>inside job?

Possibly someone managed to compromise mob45's account.
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