Best way to make the switch:

1. Withdraw 10k from your IRA account.
2. Buy all new hardware and software.
3. Kiss your 10k goodbye.
4. Cry because you have a machine that is only good for home movies and
surfing the net and nobody can support it.

"Kat" <herawood[at]aol.com> wrote in message
news:cb8704ea.0307041208.7ae6bdff[at]posting.google.com...
> Hi everyone.
> I was hoping to get some advice on how best to switch from PC to Mac.
> Here is my situation. I am just starting my own independent film
> company. I'd like (on our future projects) to try my hand at editing
> some or all of our projects myself to save money and time. I have zero
> editing experience, although I've sat in on editing and think final
> cut pro is fairly user friendly.
> Currently I use my PC for script writing, web research etc. nothing
> fancy, but it stalls, dies, causes errors etc all day long. (I've got
> windows ME...yes, I know)
> I also don't have a ton of money to spare...so the question is this:
> Which would be the smartest thing to do?
> A) Get an older system power Mac dual processor something on ebay or
> the like with maybe final cut pro 3 on it and practice, see how I do
> and then upgrade as I move on (assuming it'll be cost efficient to
> upgrade)
> B) Get the higher end stuff now in bits and pieces over a period of
> time, like G4 or maybe even G5 dual 1.25 gig and final cut pro 4
> And even more questions: what else will I need to edit from minidv
> source? How much power will I really need for writing, editing? What
> can I get away with?
> Too many questions I know, but any help would be appreciated!
> PS...do not try to talk me into staying or buying another PC. I'm
> done.
> Kat

MuahMan wrote:
> Best way to make the switch:
>
> 1. Withdraw 10k from your IRA account.
> 2. Buy all new hardware and software.
> 3. Kiss your 10k goodbye.
> 4. Cry because you have a machine that is only good for home movies
> and surfing the net and nobody can support it.
>


An accurate way of describing making the "switch".

Flip wrote:
> In article <rIGOa.40$Pd2.1121[at]newsfeed.avtel.net>,
> "John" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> MuahMan wrote:
>>> Best way to make the switch:
>>>
>>> 1. Withdraw 10k from your IRA account.
>>> 2. Buy all new hardware and software.
>>> 3. Kiss your 10k goodbye.
>>> 4. Cry because you have a machine that is only good for home movies
>>> and surfing the net and nobody can support it.
>>>
>>
>>
>> An accurate way of describing making the "switch".
>>
>>
>
> Why don't _you_ tell us why you're so scared of the idea of someone
> buying a Mac that you have to propogate lies about them?


Assuming one has a decent software collection on Windows and wants to have
the same capability on Mac a 10K cost of switching is not out of line. I
know it would cost me at least 30K to switch if I wanted to retain the
capability I have now. Thats assuming I could even get technical software
in Mac versions.

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:52:24 GMT, Flip <flippo[at]flip.com> wrote:

>In article <rIGOa.40$Pd2.1121[at]newsfeed.avtel.net>,
> "John" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> MuahMan wrote:
>> > Best way to make the switch:
>> >
>> > 1. Withdraw 10k from your IRA account.
>> > 2. Buy all new hardware and software.
>> > 3. Kiss your 10k goodbye.
>> > 4. Cry because you have a machine that is only good for home movies
>> > and surfing the net and nobody can support it.
>> >
>>
>>
>> An accurate way of describing making the "switch".
>>
>>
>
>Why don't _you_ tell us why you're so scared of the idea of someone
>buying a Mac that you have to propogate lies about them?

The only lie is number 4. It would cost me well over 10k in software
to "switch", and I already have a macintosh.


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In article <f9kmgvkhll8hca5q37d4gg1f2nr6uns3o7[at]4ax.com>,
Josiah Fizer <jfizer[at]classy.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:52:24 GMT, Flip <flippo[at]flip.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <rIGOa.40$Pd2.1121[at]newsfeed.avtel.net>,
> > "John" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> MuahMan wrote:
> >> > Best way to make the switch:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Withdraw 10k from your IRA account.
> >> > 2. Buy all new hardware and software.
> >> > 3. Kiss your 10k goodbye.
> >> > 4. Cry because you have a machine that is only good for home movies
> >> > and surfing the net and nobody can support it.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> An accurate way of describing making the "switch".
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Why don't _you_ tell us why you're so scared of the idea of someone
> >buying a Mac that you have to propogate lies about them?
>
> The only lie is number 4. It would cost me well over 10k in software
> to "switch", and I already have a macintosh.
>

You're not the person he was addressing.

In article <l1IOa.43$Pd2.1071[at]newsfeed.avtel.net>,
"John" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote:

> Flip wrote:
> > In article <rIGOa.40$Pd2.1121[at]newsfeed.avtel.net>,
> > "John" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> MuahMan wrote:
> >>> Best way to make the switch:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Withdraw 10k from your IRA account.
> >>> 2. Buy all new hardware and software.
> >>> 3. Kiss your 10k goodbye.
> >>> 4. Cry because you have a machine that is only good for home movies
> >>> and surfing the net and nobody can support it.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> An accurate way of describing making the "switch".
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Why don't _you_ tell us why you're so scared of the idea of someone
> > buying a Mac that you have to propogate lies about them?
>
>
> Assuming one has a decent software collection on Windows and wants to have
> the same capability on Mac a 10K cost of switching is not out of line. I
> know it would cost me at least 30K to switch if I wanted to retain the
> capability I have now. Thats assuming I could even get technical software
> in Mac versions.
>
>

Bullshit.

First, you already stated that you steal your software rather than buy
it.

Second, I can't believe that you use anywhere near that amount of
software. Based on what you post here, you obviously don't know anything
about much of anything.

Of course, it's possible that your company spent $30 K on mail room
software which is all you seem to use, but I doubt that, too.

Those are all true. The only possible fallacy is that you probably need
closer to 12-15k to make the switch. I'd rather buy a 2003 Yamaha R1 and
keep the homebuilt PC for under a grand that never crashes and all the
software is 100% free on Kazaa.

"flip" <flippo[at]mac.com> wrote in message
news:flippo-8A701A.20004209072003[at]news.central.cox.net...
> In article <bei0qj$5d1b3$1[at]ID-180643.news.dfncis.de>,
> "MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > ? What lies are theose you freak.
> >
> > "Flip" <flippo[at]flip.com> wrote in message
> > news:flippo-AEE7D3.17544108072003[at]nnrp03.earthlink.net...
> > > In article <befcrv$4f7pu$1[at]ID-180643.news.dfncis.de>,
> > > "MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Best way to make the switch:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Withdraw 10k from your IRA account.
> > > > 2. Buy all new hardware and software.
> > > > 3. Kiss your 10k goodbye.
> > > > 4. Cry because you have a machine that is only good for home movies
and
> > > > surfing the net and nobody can support it.
> > >
> > > So, mouseman, why don't you tell us why you're so scared of the idea
of
> > > anyone buying a Mac that you have to make up incessant lies?
> >
> >
>
> 1 through 4 above.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:21:11 -0400, "MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Those are all true. The only possible fallacy is that you probably need
>closer to 12-15k to make the switch. I'd rather buy a 2003 Yamaha R1 and
>keep the homebuilt PC for under a grand that never crashes and all the
>software is 100% free on Kazaa.
>

Why not just steal the Yamaha since you have no morels regarding other
peoples property?

>"flip" <flippo[at]mac.com> wrote in message
>news:flippo-8A701A.20004209072003[at]news.central.cox.net...
>> In article <bei0qj$5d1b3$1[at]ID-180643.news.dfncis.de>,
>> "MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > ? What lies are theose you freak.
>> >
>> > "Flip" <flippo[at]flip.com> wrote in message
>> > news:flippo-AEE7D3.17544108072003[at]nnrp03.earthlink.net...
>> > > In article <befcrv$4f7pu$1[at]ID-180643.news.dfncis.de>,
>> > > "MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Best way to make the switch:
>> > > >
>> > > > 1. Withdraw 10k from your IRA account.
>> > > > 2. Buy all new hardware and software.
>> > > > 3. Kiss your 10k goodbye.
>> > > > 4. Cry because you have a machine that is only good for home movies
>and
>> > > > surfing the net and nobody can support it.
>> > >
>> > > So, mouseman, why don't you tell us why you're so scared of the idea
>of
>> > > anyone buying a Mac that you have to make up incessant lies?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 1 through 4 above.
>



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Because I don't steal. It's wrong. Itellectual Property.... bla bla bla...
not tangible can't be stolen....
"Josiah Fizer" <jfizer[at]classy.com> wrote in message
news:dbmrgv42r5i626dcr363p6v9t70b0lme6a[at]4ax.com...
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:21:11 -0400, "MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Those are all true. The only possible fallacy is that you probably need
> >closer to 12-15k to make the switch. I'd rather buy a 2003 Yamaha R1 and
> >keep the homebuilt PC for under a grand that never crashes and all the
> >software is 100% free on Kazaa.
> >
>
> Why not just steal the Yamaha since you have no morels regarding other
> peoples property?
>
> >"flip" <flippo[at]mac.com> wrote in message
> >news:flippo-8A701A.20004209072003[at]news.central.cox.net...
> >> In article <bei0qj$5d1b3$1[at]ID-180643.news.dfncis.de>,
> >> "MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > ? What lies are theose you freak.
> >> >
> >> > "Flip" <flippo[at]flip.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:flippo-AEE7D3.17544108072003[at]nnrp03.earthlink.net...
> >> > > In article <befcrv$4f7pu$1[at]ID-180643.news.dfncis.de>,
> >> > > "MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Best way to make the switch:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 1. Withdraw 10k from your IRA account.
> >> > > > 2. Buy all new hardware and software.
> >> > > > 3. Kiss your 10k goodbye.
> >> > > > 4. Cry because you have a machine that is only good for home
movies
> >and
> >> > > > surfing the net and nobody can support it.
> >> > >
> >> > > So, mouseman, why don't you tell us why you're so scared of the
idea
> >of
> >> > > anyone buying a Mac that you have to make up incessant lies?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> 1 through 4 above.
> >
>
>
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In article <bekr21$6ab04$1[at]ID-180643.news.uni-berlin.de>,
"MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

> Because I don't steal. It's wrong. Itellectual Property.... bla bla bla...
> not tangible can't be stolen....

Spoken like someone without sufficient intellectual capability to ever
create anything that anyone would *want* to steal.

> "Josiah Fizer" <jfizer[at]classy.com> wrote in message
> news:dbmrgv42r5i626dcr363p6v9t70b0lme6a[at]4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:21:11 -0400, "MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Those are all true. The only possible fallacy is that you probably need
> > >closer to 12-15k to make the switch. I'd rather buy a 2003 Yamaha R1 and
> > >keep the homebuilt PC for under a grand that never crashes and all the
> > >software is 100% free on Kazaa.
> > >
> >
> > Why not just steal the Yamaha since you have no morels regarding other
> > peoples property?
> >
> > >"flip" <flippo[at]mac.com> wrote in message
> > >news:flippo-8A701A.20004209072003[at]news.central.cox.net...
> > >> In article <bei0qj$5d1b3$1[at]ID-180643.news.dfncis.de>,
> > >> "MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > ? What lies are theose you freak.
> > >> >
> > >> > "Flip" <flippo[at]flip.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:flippo-AEE7D3.17544108072003[at]nnrp03.earthlink.net...
> > >> > > In article <befcrv$4f7pu$1[at]ID-180643.news.dfncis.de>,
> > >> > > "MuahMan" <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Best way to make the switch:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 1. Withdraw 10k from your IRA account.
> > >> > > > 2. Buy all new hardware and software.
> > >> > > > 3. Kiss your 10k goodbye.
> > >> > > > 4. Cry because you have a machine that is only good for home
> movies
> > >and
> > >> > > > surfing the net and nobody can support it.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > So, mouseman, why don't you tell us why you're so scared of the
> idea
> > >of
> > >> > > anyone buying a Mac that you have to make up incessant lies?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> 1 through 4 above.
> > >
> >
> >
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--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

That could quite possibly be the worst analogy of all times.

"Andy Walton" <atticus[at]mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> In article <bekr21$6ab04$1[at]ID-180643.news.uni-berlin.de>, MuahMan
> <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Because I don't steal. It's wrong. Itellectual Property.... bla bla
bla...
> > not tangible can't be stolen....
>
> So if I have your credit card number, you won't mind? The physical card
> is still in your wallet ...
>
> --
> Do I dare / Disturb the universe? / In a minute there is time/
> For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse.
> -- T.S. Eliot, "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock"
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:45:08 GMT, no <no[at]no.com> wrote:

>In article <120720030156270139%atticus[at]mindspring.com>,
> Andy Walton <atticus[at]mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> > Because I don't steal. It's wrong. Itellectual Property.... bla bla bla...
>> > not tangible can't be stolen....
>>
>> So if I have your credit card number, you won't mind? The physical card
>> is still in your wallet ...
>
>If you think about it, its not so much his having your non physical
>number, its the possibility you will use it to take *PHYSICAL* money
>from his account.
>
>You can have his number all you want, just as long as all his *physical*
>money stays with him (in his bank account)

Do you think that the money in a bank is physical? Its just money in
potential, sort of like light being both a particle and a wave. Until
I remove the money via an ATM or teller it is just a number in a
database.


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In article <sip0hvkjaicpi6djevq32aefsv3u90c864[at]4ax.com>,
Josiah Fizer <jfizer[at]classy.com> wrote:

> >In article <120720030156270139%atticus[at]mindspring.com>,
> > Andy Walton <atticus[at]mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > Because I don't steal. It's wrong. Itellectual Property.... bla bla
> >> > bla...
> >> > not tangible can't be stolen....
> >>
> >> So if I have your credit card number, you won't mind? The physical card
> >> is still in your wallet ...
> >
> >If you think about it, its not so much his having your non physical
> >number, its the possibility you will use it to take *PHYSICAL* money
> >from his account.
> >
> >You can have his number all you want, just as long as all his *physical*
> >money stays with him (in his bank account)
>
> Do you think that the money in a bank is physical? Its just money in
> potential, sort of like light being both a particle and a wave. Until
> I remove the money via an ATM or teller it is just a number in a
> database.


What makes you think I dont think money in a bank is physical? Thats the
only reason one cares if someone gets our bank number, because they have
the potential to take this physical entity away from us. Otherwise we
could give a f***. Do you mind if he gets your old bank account number
that no longer works to get the physical money? I dont. The sole
reason we do care is because the number can cause a physical loss to us.

In article <no-F4CB1F.11450912072003[at]newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com>,
no <no[at]no.com> wrote:

> In article <120720030156270139%atticus[at]mindspring.com>,
> Andy Walton <atticus[at]mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > > Because I don't steal. It's wrong. Itellectual Property.... bla bla bla...
> > > not tangible can't be stolen....
> >
> > So if I have your credit card number, you won't mind? The physical card
> > is still in your wallet ...
>
> If you think about it, its not so much his having your non physical
> number, its the possibility you will use it to take *PHYSICAL* money
> from his account.

Do you think that if you have a $5000 bank account balance, the bank
has $5000 in currency in a box with your name on it? You don't have any
*PHYSICAL* money until you get it from the ATM.

If I arranged an illegal transfer from his account to mine, no physical
goods would change hands.

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In article <no-44D6BF.15564012072003[at]newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com>,
no <no[at]no.com> wrote:

> What makes you think I dont think money in a bank is physical?

I don't doubt that you think it, but you're wrong.

> Thats the
> only reason one cares if someone gets our bank number, because they have
> the potential to take this physical entity away from us.

Um, no. The money in your account is data. You can take the physical
entity that is my checkbook, and it won't be a serious crime as long as
you don't successfully use it to move bits around in the computer
database that holds the balance of my account.

My paycheck is direct-deposited. My employer's computer shoots a stream
of bits to the bank's computer every couple of weeks. My employer also
sends me a paper paycheck stub in the mail. I can assure you that the
"physical entity" is not what's important to me.

--
Make definite assertions. Avoid tame, colorless, hesitating,
non-committal language.
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In article <bep4r7$79lrf$1[at]ID-180643.news.uni-berlin.de>, MuahMan
<muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

> That could quite possibly be the worst analogy of all times.

How so? Neither your credit card number nor your credit card (or
checking account) balance is tangible. If I electronically take money
from your account and put it in mine, I've only stolen data, and
that's (according to you) just fine and dandy.

--
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I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants." -- A. Whitney Brown
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:58:42 -0400, Andy Walton
<atticus[at]mindspring.com> wrote:

>In article <bep4r7$79lrf$1[at]ID-180643.news.uni-berlin.de>, MuahMan
><muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> That could quite possibly be the worst analogy of all times.
>
>How so? Neither your credit card number nor your credit card (or
>checking account) balance is tangible. If I electronically take money
>from your account and put it in mine, I've only stolen data, and
>that's (according to you) just fine and dandy.

No you don't understand. Your stealing HIS data. That's almost
sacrilegious, its only other peoples data that has no value.


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Forget FinalCut Pro 4, get Sonic Foundry Vegas 4.
Download the demo.

http://www.sonicfoundry.com/products/showproduct.asp?PID=808

By the way, why there is no demo version for FCP 4 ?

In article <130720030058428218%atticus[at]mindspring.com>,
Andy Walton <atticus[at]mindspring.com> wrote:

> In article <bep4r7$79lrf$1[at]ID-180643.news.uni-berlin.de>, MuahMan
> <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > That could quite possibly be the worst analogy of all times.
>
> How so? Neither your credit card number nor your credit card (or
> checking account) balance is tangible. If I electronically take money
> from your account and put it in mine, I've only stolen data, and
> that's (according to you) just fine and dandy.

I hate to agree with MuahMan, but that really isn't a good analogy. The
important distinction between copyright violation and theft isn't what
sort of thing is being taken. The important distinction is that if I
make an illegal copy of your data, you still have that data, whereas if
I steal your car, you no longer have that car.

--
"First, let me make it very clear, poor people aren't necessarily killers. Just
because you happen to be not rich doesn't mean you're willing to kill."
-- George W. Bush in Washington, D.C. on May 19, 2003

In article <130720031053411223%atticus[at]mindspring.com>,
Andy Walton <atticus[at]mindspring.com> wrote:

> In article <znu-1B324F.08444913072003[at]news.fu-berlin.de>, ZnU
> <znu[at]acedsl.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <130720030058428218%atticus[at]mindspring.com>,
> > Andy Walton <atticus[at]mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <bep4r7$79lrf$1[at]ID-180643.news.uni-berlin.de>, MuahMan
> > > <muahman[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > That could quite possibly be the worst analogy of all times.
> > >
> > > How so? Neither your credit card number nor your credit card (or
> > > checking account) balance is tangible. If I electronically take money
> > > from your account and put it in mine, I've only stolen data, and
> > > that's (according to you) just fine and dandy.
> >
> > I hate to agree with MuahMan, but that really isn't a good analogy. The
> > important distinction between copyright violation and theft isn't what
> > sort of thing is being taken.
>
> But I wasn't arguing the distinction between coyright violation and
> theft -- I was arguing MuahMan's specific claim that "Itellectual [sic]
> Property.... bla bla bla...not tangible can't be stolen...."

If you see a distinction there, I don't think you're taking his meaning
correctly. It's true that he's not exactly the most articulate
individual in the world, but it seems pretty clear to me that he's
arguing for a distinction between copyright violation and theft, even if
that's not quite what his words say.

Oh well. It's up to him to clarify the issue, assuming he's capable of
it.

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In article <berb6d$51p$1[at]news.ctimail.com>, "MK70" <none[at]nomail.com>
wrote:

> Forget FinalCut Pro 4, get Sonic Foundry Vegas 4.
> Download the demo.
>
> http://www.sonicfoundry.com/products/showproduct.asp?PID=808

That would be fairly silly, given that it doesn't run on anything
I own.

> By the way, why there is no demo version for FCP 4 ?

There's been no need to issue one to keep up demand?

Alternatively: it's called iMovie. If you like that well
enough, but need more juice, you can upgrade to Final Cut
Express or Final Cut Pro.

In article <sehix-A06C3A.19280514072003[at]corp-radius.supernews.com>,
Steve Hix <sehix[at]mac.com> wrote:

> In article <berb6d$51p$1[at]news.ctimail.com>, "MK70" <none[at]nomail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Forget FinalCut Pro 4, get Sonic Foundry Vegas 4.
> > Download the demo.
> >
> > http://www.sonicfoundry.com/products/showproduct.asp?PID=808
>
> That would be fairly silly, given that it doesn't run on anything
> I own.
>
> > By the way, why there is no demo version for FCP 4 ?
>
> There's been no need to issue one to keep up demand?
>
> Alternatively: it's called iMovie. If you like that well
> enough, but need more juice, you can upgrade to Final Cut
> Express or Final Cut Pro.

iMovie is free, but it's not a cheap version of FCP. It's an entirely
different product, made by a different team. Different UI, not a demo
version.

FC Express is the cheap version. $300, "optimized for DV," which means
that reading and writing other formats is disabled.

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Woofbert <woofbert.spam[at]infernosoft.com> wrote:
>FC Express is the cheap version. $300, "optimized for DV," which means
>that reading and writing other formats is disabled.

Before anyone gets the wrong idea, this means you can export other formats,
but you can't cut natively in them - you can't edit uncompressed video with
a real-time capture card, and you can't generate EDLs so there's not much
point in using OfflineRT, which it doesn't have anyway :).

-- Erick