In article <1gffgv0r029t2jvuo5kf39f34npo8np8bd[at]4ax.com>,
foo <foo[at]bar.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 06:02:52 GMT, Woofbert
> <woofbert.spam[at]infernosoft.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <eriegvg9jpid4h836g7a41dt8dtf6eh14d[at]4ax.com>,
> > foo <foo[at]bar.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >Do you eat pork? What about shell fish? Do you eat food that was
> >> >prepared more then 24 hours before? If so you're going to hell
> >> >according to the bible.
> >>
> >> Absolutely false. Read the New Testament.
> >
> >It's instructive that when it comes to dietary laws, modern Christians
> >choose to just offhandedly toss aside the tried-and-true Kosher rules
> >for keeping clean, and are glad to eat unhealthy food prepared in
> >unclean ways.
>
> Exactly - we're not Jewish. There are no two conclusions that you can
> reach - that's what it says - there is no interpretation. If you want
> to argue about the OT, find a Jew.
>
> >At the same time, when it comes to homosexuality, they
> >gladly ignore what Jesus said about gay people,
>
> I see - what did he say? Rom/Cor/Tim have the explicit mentions of
> homosexuality in the NT, so please inform me.

No, you tell me. You look it up and research it for yourself. You're the
one whacking me on the head with all these OT proscriptions against
homosexuality, and then complaining that you don't have to keep kosher
because that's all OT rules that you don't have to follow any more.

So if you don't keep kosher, then why do you insist on other rules from
Leviticus? If it's Jesus you follow, then what did he say about
homosexuals?

> >and point to a few lines
> >here and there in the Bible that can be interpreted to talk abotu gay
> >people
>
> "Here and there" means comments throughout the Bible - not just the NT
> or just the OT. And yes, I do focus on the NT when reading law; the
> changes between the two books/parts make that pretty clear.

What did *Jesus* say about homoseuxals?

> >... while ignoring all sorts of proscriptions against straight
> >people. (Do you let your wife to go church during her period?)
>
> The NT changes much of the law of the OT, as hopefully my response to
> your comment on dietary law makes clear. If you want to fight about
> the OT, find a kosher Jew.

Basically, as I understand it, the NT pretty much invalidates everything
in the OT except the creation story in Genesis and the proscriptions
against gays in Leviticus and a few other places, for these are, as far
asi can tell, the issues of greatest importance to the Christian
religious radicals.

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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:15:04 GMT, Woofbert
<woofbert.spam[at]infernosoft.com> wrote:

>In article <1gffgv0r029t2jvuo5kf39f34npo8np8bd[at]4ax.com>,
> foo <foo[at]bar.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 06:02:52 GMT, Woofbert
>> <woofbert.spam[at]infernosoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <eriegvg9jpid4h836g7a41dt8dtf6eh14d[at]4ax.com>,
>> > foo <foo[at]bar.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >Do you eat pork? What about shell fish? Do you eat food that was
>> >> >prepared more then 24 hours before? If so you're going to hell
>> >> >according to the bible.
>> >>
>> >> Absolutely false. Read the New Testament.
>> >
>> >It's instructive that when it comes to dietary laws, modern Christians
>> >choose to just offhandedly toss aside the tried-and-true Kosher rules
>> >for keeping clean, and are glad to eat unhealthy food prepared in
>> >unclean ways.
>>
>> Exactly - we're not Jewish. There are no two conclusions that you can
>> reach - that's what it says - there is no interpretation. If you want
>> to argue about the OT, find a Jew.
>>
>> >At the same time, when it comes to homosexuality, they
>> >gladly ignore what Jesus said about gay people,
>>
>> I see - what did he say? Rom/Cor/Tim have the explicit mentions of
>> homosexuality in the NT, so please inform me.
>
>No, you tell me. You look it up and research it for yourself.

You brought it up - no one else did.

>You're the
>one whacking me on the head with all these OT proscriptions against

I'm not whacking anything of yours. Someone asked a question, I
answered the question. The fact that you choose to care what the
Bible says is illuminating - apparently you believe *something* about
it, or else you wouldn't care and would've bowed out of this
conversation long ago.

>homosexuality, and then complaining that you don't have to keep kosher
>because that's all OT rules that you don't have to follow any more.

>So if you don't keep kosher, then why do you insist on other rules from
>Leviticus?

Mayor went over this already, and so did I. I can't believe you still
don't understand.

>If it's Jesus you follow, then what did he say about
>homosexuals?

You tell me.

>> >and point to a few lines
>> >here and there in the Bible that can be interpreted to talk abotu gay
>> >people
>>
>> "Here and there" means comments throughout the Bible - not just the NT
>> or just the OT. And yes, I do focus on the NT when reading law; the
>> changes between the two books/parts make that pretty clear.
>
>What did *Jesus* say about homoseuxals?

Tell us.

>> >... while ignoring all sorts of proscriptions against straight
>> >people. (Do you let your wife to go church during her period?)
>>
>> The NT changes much of the law of the OT, as hopefully my response to
>> your comment on dietary law makes clear. If you want to fight about
>> the OT, find a kosher Jew.
>
>Basically, as I understand it, the NT pretty much invalidates everything
>in the OT except the creation story in Genesis and the proscriptions
>against gays in Leviticus and a few other places, for these are, as far
>asi can tell, the issues of greatest importance to the Christian
>religious radicals.

Why do you say that? The only person making an issue here is you.