In article <ckkggvctg00armj4h3r0tffi7cvl855v5c[at]4ax.com>,
foo <foo[at]bar.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 06:49:34 -0500, Tim Smith
> <reply_in_group[at]mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <v0segvs5dha87tiijfklsrfol42ut6fhcl[at]4ax.com>, foo wrote:
> >> That's not correct, Tim. Please read Isiah 33:14, Matt 3:12 & 5:29 &
> >> 13:49-50, Rev 21:8, 20:10. These are just a few verses that clearly
> >> (especially the last) state that Hell is eternal. There are plenty more.
> >
> >It depends on how you translate from Hebrew and Greek. Google on "Bible
> >Hell" for all the arguments.
>
> I gave you specific references; how about you do the same.

The notion that any English translaiton of the Bible, especially the
King James Bible, is authoritative, is not far removed from ridiculous.
All translations of the Bible were informed by the political and social
beliefs of the people doing the translation.

The Bible itself is so full of inconsistencies and contradictions, not
to mention inaccuracies in translations arising from changes in the way
languages are used and the beliefs of the translators, that its use, in
its entirety, as the authoritative word on creation, history, and
morality is intellectually dishonest.

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study it thoroughly before you begin.

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:46:24 GMT, Woofbert
<woofbert.spam[at]infernosoft.com> wrote:

>In article <ckkggvctg00armj4h3r0tffi7cvl855v5c[at]4ax.com>,
> foo <foo[at]bar.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 06:49:34 -0500, Tim Smith
>> <reply_in_group[at]mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <v0segvs5dha87tiijfklsrfol42ut6fhcl[at]4ax.com>, foo wrote:
>> >> That's not correct, Tim. Please read Isiah 33:14, Matt 3:12 & 5:29 &
>> >> 13:49-50, Rev 21:8, 20:10. These are just a few verses that clearly
>> >> (especially the last) state that Hell is eternal. There are plenty more.
>> >
>> >It depends on how you translate from Hebrew and Greek. Google on "Bible
>> >Hell" for all the arguments.
>>
>> I gave you specific references; how about you do the same.
>
>The notion that any English translaiton of the Bible, especially the
>King James Bible, is authoritative, is not far removed from ridiculous.
>All translations of the Bible were informed by the political and social
>beliefs of the people doing the translation.

Fortunately, that's not correct. The early translations of the Bible
were among the most copied works in human history at the time, and
plenty of other versions exist that can be compared with these later
copies and translations.

>The Bible itself is so full of inconsistencies and contradictions, not
>to mention inaccuracies in translations arising from changes in the way
>languages are used and the beliefs of the translators, that its use, in
>its entirety, as the authoritative word on creation, history, and
>morality is intellectually dishonest.

Then point a few out.