View Full Version : Re: I work for APPLE, but I run WINDOWS at home!


George Graves
07-06-2003, 08:57 PM
In article <187fab45.0307060928.eba778c[at]posting.google.com>,
cupertinojustin[at]yahoo.com (Justin in Cupertino) wrote:

> George Graves <gmgraves[at]pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:<gmgraves-1D4F88.13132504072003[at]newssvr16-ext.news.prodigy.com>...
>
> > Not always. Jobs that aren't directly computer related (like accounting
> > and shipping/receiving) don't require any previous Mac experience. So
> > maybe that explains this poster. If so, we can take his monotribe with a
> > grain of salt.
> >
>
> I can assure you than many, if not most senior level people (I'm not
> talking about junior level technicians like jcr) come to Apple with
> *no* macintosh experience.
>
> I alsi think that Apple would make better products if MORE of Apple's
> engineers and QA professionals ran Windows XP! That way, instead of
> toddling around spewing "Mac is better! There's a CONSPIRACY!" they
> can actually get to know the competition and compete against Windows
> legitamately.

I have a number of friends who work at Apple in a technical capacity.
Believe me, they've all used Windows XP and know it well enough to know
that it's garbage.

> This attitude, that's rampant in c.s.m.a, further pushes Macintosh
> into a niche!
>
> Don't get me wrong: I'd love it for Apple to grow its market share. To
> do that, Apple employees should really know what Windows XP and other
> competing products (like Linux or FreeBSD for servers) are all about.

They do. There are even departments at Apple who's job is to evaluate
Windows and other alternative operating systems and technologies.

Are you a contractor at Apple by any chance, rather than a direct
employee? Apple uses lots of those, and I could understand your lack of
simpatico with the Mac and your lack of knowledge about how Apple works
if you were merely a temporary employee.

--
George Graves

John C. Randolph
07-06-2003, 10:19 PM
George Graves wrote:
>
> In article <187fab45.0307060928.eba778c[at]posting.google.com>,
> cupertinojustin[at]yahoo.com (Justin in Cupertino) wrote:
>
> > George Graves <gmgraves[at]pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:<gmgraves-1D4F88.13132504072003[at]newssvr16-ext.news.prodigy.com>...
> >
> > > Not always. Jobs that aren't directly computer related (like accounting
> > > and shipping/receiving) don't require any previous Mac experience. So
> > > maybe that explains this poster. If so, we can take his monotribe with a
> > > grain of salt.
> > >
> >
> > I can assure you than many, if not most senior level people (I'm not
> > talking about junior level technicians like jcr) come to Apple with
> > *no* macintosh experience.

BTW, I'd like to see 'justin' try describing me as a 'junior level
technician' on the Cocoa-dev list.

> > I alsi think that Apple would make better products if MORE of Apple's
> > engineers and QA professionals ran Windows XP! That way, instead of
> > toddling around spewing "Mac is better! There's a CONSPIRACY!" they
> > can actually get to know the competition and compete against Windows
> > legitamately.
>
> I have a number of friends who work at Apple in a technical capacity.
> Believe me, they've all used Windows XP and know it well enough to know
> that it's garbage.
>
> > This attitude, that's rampant in c.s.m.a, further pushes Macintosh
> > into a niche!
> >
> > Don't get me wrong: I'd love it for Apple to grow its market share. To
> > do that, Apple employees should really know what Windows XP and other
> > competing products (like Linux or FreeBSD for servers) are all about.
>
> They do. There are even departments at Apple who's job is to evaluate
> Windows and other alternative operating systems and technologies.
>
> Are you a contractor at Apple by any chance, rather than a direct
> employee? Apple uses lots of those, and I could understand your lack of
> simpatico with the Mac and your lack of knowledge about how Apple works
> if you were merely a temporary employee.

It would also explain his reluctance to look up my hosts in NetInfo. He
may be unable to do so, which would pretty much preclude him being an engineer.

-jcr

John C. Randolph
07-06-2003, 10:19 PM
George Graves wrote:
>
> In article <187fab45.0307060928.eba778c[at]posting.google.com>,
> cupertinojustin[at]yahoo.com (Justin in Cupertino) wrote:
>
> > George Graves <gmgraves[at]pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:<gmgraves-1D4F88.13132504072003[at]newssvr16-ext.news.prodigy.com>...
> >
> > > Not always. Jobs that aren't directly computer related (like accounting
> > > and shipping/receiving) don't require any previous Mac experience. So
> > > maybe that explains this poster. If so, we can take his monotribe with a
> > > grain of salt.
> > >
> >
> > I can assure you than many, if not most senior level people (I'm not
> > talking about junior level technicians like jcr) come to Apple with
> > *no* macintosh experience.

BTW, I'd like to see 'justin' try describing me as a 'junior level
technician' on the Cocoa-dev list.

> > I alsi think that Apple would make better products if MORE of Apple's
> > engineers and QA professionals ran Windows XP! That way, instead of
> > toddling around spewing "Mac is better! There's a CONSPIRACY!" they
> > can actually get to know the competition and compete against Windows
> > legitamately.
>
> I have a number of friends who work at Apple in a technical capacity.
> Believe me, they've all used Windows XP and know it well enough to know
> that it's garbage.
>
> > This attitude, that's rampant in c.s.m.a, further pushes Macintosh
> > into a niche!
> >
> > Don't get me wrong: I'd love it for Apple to grow its market share. To
> > do that, Apple employees should really know what Windows XP and other
> > competing products (like Linux or FreeBSD for servers) are all about.
>
> They do. There are even departments at Apple who's job is to evaluate
> Windows and other alternative operating systems and technologies.
>
> Are you a contractor at Apple by any chance, rather than a direct
> employee? Apple uses lots of those, and I could understand your lack of
> simpatico with the Mac and your lack of knowledge about how Apple works
> if you were merely a temporary employee.

It would also explain his reluctance to look up my hosts in NetInfo. He
may be unable to do so, which would pretty much preclude him being an engineer.

-jcr

wheat
07-08-2003, 12:34 AM
John C. Randolph wrote:

> George Graves wrote:
>
>>In article <187fab45.0307060928.eba778c[at]posting.google.com>,
>> cupertinojustin[at]yahoo.com (Justin in Cupertino) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>George Graves <gmgraves[at]pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>>news:<gmgraves-1D4F88.13132504072003[at]newssvr16-ext.news.prodigy.com>...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Not always. Jobs that aren't directly computer related (like accounting
>>>>and shipping/receiving) don't require any previous Mac experience. So
>>>>maybe that explains this poster. If so, we can take his monotribe with a
>>>>grain of salt.
[...]
>
> It would also explain his reluctance to look up my hosts in NetInfo. He
> may be unable to do so, which would pretty much preclude him being an engineer.
>
> -jcr

Janitor. I'm thinking janitor.