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zoara
03-07-2004, 10:17 AM
We've talked about various flaws in OSX - and OS9 for those who want to
'fight back' - but what about the hardware....?
What particular hardware design decision has made you raise your
eyebrows and think "they really didn't think that one through"?
The one that irks me the most is the position of the line-out port on
the iPod dock. The iPod cable has a release mechanism controlled by
squeezing the edges of the plug. If you have that cable and a line out
cable plugged into the dock, you can't get to the edge of the iPod cable
to squeeze it so you can pull it out. You have to pull the line-out
cable, then the iPod cable, then re-plug the line-out....
Not a huge issue, but something that they seem not to have thought
about.
What about you?
-zoara-
--
eh?
Mike Jenkins
03-07-2004, 10:25 AM
zoara <me3[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> What about you?
Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
Not making a port replicator for Powerbooks.
Not muting the speakers on my MDD G4 when I plug headphones in (I think
that is hardware).
--
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zoara wrote:
>
> What particular hardware design decision has made you raise your
> eyebrows and think "they really didn't think that one through"?
>
> What about you?
>
The Beige G3 doesn't appear to be able to boot from anything apart from
/AAPL,ROM which is a little crap (not a problem in normal usage, but as
that ROM apparently fails after a while it'd be nice not to need to rely on
it).
On the subject of the Beige G3, their tower cases (and hence those of the
8600/9600) aren't quite the smooth operators that the G5 or Sade are. In
fact, they're distinctly wobbly beasts.
The RAM used in the aforementioned machines is *slower* than in some
machines from 1990-vintage. 10Base-T ethernet was a bad move too in a pro
machine, even in 1997 or whenever they were current, especially half
duplex.
The eMac only has USB1.1. And ships with far too little memory.
The G5 costs far too much ;-)
--
Graham Lee
I am leeg, for we are many
"Steve Jobs said two years ago that X is brain-damaged and it will be gone
in two years. He was half right." - Denis Ritchie
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Mike Jenkins wrote:
> Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
> like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
Agree with that one. Also tray load drives on LCD iMacs, I miss the
slot load of my old Blue Dalmation. Being able to connect me apple pro
speakers to my pBook would be nice.
Jim
Chris Ridd
03-07-2004, 10:41 AM
On 7/3/04 11:17 am, in article 1ga8q4p.ubj68zwp3a0bN%me3[at]privacy.net,
"zoara" <me3[at]privacy.net> wrote:
>
> We've talked about various flaws in OSX - and OS9 for those who want to
> 'fight back' - but what about the hardware....?
>
>
> What particular hardware design decision has made you raise your
> eyebrows and think "they really didn't think that one through"?
From the not-a-particular-big-deal department:
The VGA socket on the older TiBooks is too recessed, and the casing fouls
some VGA connectors.
The Ethernet socket's also slightly too high up, so when you get those
cables with flexible hoods it is almost impossible to squeeze the clip to
release the cable.
Cheers,
Chris
Bella Jones
03-07-2004, 11:07 AM
leeg <leeg[at]teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk.valid> wrote:
> zoara wrote:
>
> >
> > What particular hardware design decision has made you raise your
> > eyebrows and think "they really didn't think that one through"?
> >
> > What about you?
> >
>
> The eMac only has USB1.1. And ships with far too little memory.
Damn - you got in there first! :-)
White matte keyboard not a great idea either.
--
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Bella Jones
03-07-2004, 11:07 AM
jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan <"jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan"[at]mac.com> wrote:
> Mike Jenkins wrote:
>
> > Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
> > like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
>
> Agree with that one. Also tray load drives on LCD iMacs, I miss the
> slot load of my old Blue Dalmation.
Yep. Slot load feels a lot neater.
--
bellajonez at yahoo dot co dot uk
Bella Jones wrote:
> jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan <"jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan"[at]mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Mike Jenkins wrote:
>>
>> > Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
>> > like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
>>
>> Agree with that one. Also tray load drives on LCD iMacs, I miss the
>> slot load of my old Blue Dalmation.
>
> Yep. Slot load feels a lot neater.
>
>
It's a bit more breakable though, so I can see why they went with the
tray-loading models. Unfortunately as you say they do *feel* wrong; it
adds to the feeling that you're using a laptop computer in a funny shaped
box. In fact, having taken a couple of iMacs apart, you *are* using a
laptop computer in a funny shaped box!
--
Graham Lee
I am leeg, for we are many
Atheism is a not-for-prophet organisation.
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Jon B
03-07-2004, 12:17 PM
Mike Jenkins <usenet_no_spam[at]kwik-e-mart.org> wrote:
> zoara <me3[at]privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > What about you?
>
> Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
> like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
>
Don't suppose it affects most users though I do agree with you on that.
> Not making a port replicator for Powerbooks.
>
Yes now one of those would be nice, bloody handy on the IBM we have at
work.
> Not muting the speakers on my MDD G4 when I plug headphones in (I think
> that is hardware).
So it doesn't, you running Apple Pro speakers or something plugged into
the speaker out, I'm running the latter and I know the two ports over
ride each other but I didn't realise the headphones didn't. Lucky I have
a headphone out port on my speakers that does override it then ;)
--
Jon
jon.bradbury[at]btinternet.com
Jon B
03-07-2004, 12:17 PM
Bella Jones <me9[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan <"jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan"[at]mac.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike Jenkins wrote:
> >
> > > Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
> > > like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
> >
> > Agree with that one. Also tray load drives on LCD iMacs, I miss the
> > slot load of my old Blue Dalmation.
>
> Yep. Slot load feels a lot neater.
I think it might be due to build tolerances, its not always easy to get
the two parts to line up, esp not with how the LCD iMacs go together.
Second thing is I suspect the drive needs to be close to the edge of the
casing as they don't spit the cd out very far, on the LCD iMacs the
drive is quite well recessed into the unit.
Next one is just a all in general Apple laptop design flaw, HD access.
On many laptops nowadays you drop one screw out the base, slide the
drive out, take it out its carrier, put new one in, slide back in,
replace screw, 30 seconds job done. If not the iBook they should at
least do this to the PB. Apple iBooks and I'm assuming the PBs are
pretty similar are a task and a half, even once you are in there, you
have to take off a weird shapes IO shield that covers everything in your
sight, it could have been 3 seperate pieces to simplify matters, but no,
just to keep it complicated they've pot riveted all the pieces together.
--
Jon
jon.bradbury[at]btinternet.com
Jon B
03-07-2004, 01:25 PM
Chris Ridd <chrisridd[at]mac.com> wrote:
> On 7/3/04 11:17 am, in article 1ga8q4p.ubj68zwp3a0bN%me3[at]privacy.net,
> "zoara" <me3[at]privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > We've talked about various flaws in OSX - and OS9 for those who want to
> > 'fight back' - but what about the hardware....?
> >
> >
> > What particular hardware design decision has made you raise your
> > eyebrows and think "they really didn't think that one through"?
>
> From the not-a-particular-big-deal department:
>
> The VGA socket on the older TiBooks is too recessed, and the casing fouls
> some VGA connectors.
>
> The Ethernet socket's also slightly too high up, so when you get those
> cables with flexible hoods it is almost impossible to squeeze the clip to
> release the cable.
>
I thought they were impossible whatever they were plugged into, first
thing I often do with them is pull the hood half inch back down the
cable.
--
Jon
jon.bradbury[at]btinternet.com
Antony Lacey
03-07-2004, 02:33 PM
Mike Jenkins <usenet_no_spam[at]kwik-e-mart.org> wrote:
> Not muting the speakers on my MDD G4 when I plug headphones in (I think
> that is hardware).
You amy find it's a dodgy socket - mine mutes the speaker, but doesn't
'unmute' it when I unplug them, unless I fiddle about.
Hence I don't plug in headphones much now.
--
Antony
Pull the plug to reply.
Tim Gowen
03-07-2004, 03:38 PM
Bella Jones <me9[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> White matte keyboard not a great idea either.
Sexy, though. I love it, even if it gets dirt and dust stuck in visible
places.
(You're using MacSoup now - nice!)
Tim
--
Tim Gowen
Bella Jones
03-07-2004, 03:42 PM
leeg <leeg[at]teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk.valid> wrote:
> Bella Jones wrote:
>
> > jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan <"jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan"[at]mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mike Jenkins wrote:
> >>
> >> > Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
> >> > like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
> >>
> >> Agree with that one. Also tray load drives on LCD iMacs, I miss the
> >> slot load of my old Blue Dalmation.
> >
> > Yep. Slot load feels a lot neater.
> >
> >
> It's a bit more breakable though, so I can see why they went with the
> tray-loading models. Unfortunately as you say they do *feel* wrong; it
> adds to the feeling that you're using a laptop computer in a funny shaped
> box. In fact, having taken a couple of iMacs apart, you *are* using a
> laptop computer in a funny shaped box!
And the temptation to put a cup of tea or ashtray there, like on that
ad, is all a bit too much. :-)
--
bellajonez at yahoo dot co dot uk
Roger Merriman
03-07-2004, 05:05 PM
zoara <me3[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> We've talked about various flaws in OSX - and OS9 for those who want to
> 'fight back' - but what about the hardware....?
>
>
> What particular hardware design decision has made you raise your
> eyebrows and think "they really didn't think that one through"?
>
> The one that irks me the most is the position of the line-out port on
> the iPod dock. The iPod cable has a release mechanism controlled by
> squeezing the edges of the plug. If you have that cable and a line out
> cable plugged into the dock, you can't get to the edge of the iPod cable
> to squeeze it so you can pull it out. You have to pull the line-out
> cable, then the iPod cable, then re-plug the line-out....
>
> Not a huge issue, but something that they seem not to have thought
> about.
>
> What about you?
>
bit anoying that the usb ports on the imac/powerbook are so close that
if you plug a usb pen in you can't use a mouse, not a problem for
powerbook there is the track pad but for the imac its a show stopper!
>
> -zoara-
roger
Roger Merriman
03-07-2004, 05:05 PM
Bella Jones <me9[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> leeg <leeg[at]teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk.valid> wrote:
>
> > zoara wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > What particular hardware design decision has made you raise your
> > > eyebrows and think "they really didn't think that one through"?
> > >
> > > What about you?
> > >
> >
> > The eMac only has USB1.1. And ships with far too little memory.
>
> Damn - you got in there first! :-)
yeah that is a bit poor though for most usb stuff the speed will be
largly irrlevent and rember that firewire is a better connection for
data any way as its constant rate, but even so feels like there
skimping.
>
> White matte keyboard not a great idea either.
getting tobaco inbeetween are we! as you produse the next artical in
hack mode! with fag in mouth hehe.
but seriously yes a white keyboard is going to look icky in no time.
roger
Roger Merriman
03-07-2004, 05:05 PM
Bella Jones <me9[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan <"jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan"[at]mac.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike Jenkins wrote:
> >
> > > Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
> > > like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
> >
> > Agree with that one. Also tray load drives on LCD iMacs, I miss the
> > slot load of my old Blue Dalmation.
>
> Yep. Slot load feels a lot neater.
the slot load on the powerbook is fine but i really don't like the one
on the imac it boke a number of times, it has allways felt iffy doesn't
grab the disk well nor ejject it well and it seems to have more problem
reading the disks than the powerbook i have some dvd's that will not
play on the imac but will on the powerbook, some that have scraches some
that the imac just plain doen't like...not a good drive all in told.
roger
Roger Merriman
03-07-2004, 05:05 PM
Jon B <jon.bradburyusenetspam[at]btinternet.com> wrote:
> Bella Jones <me9[at]privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan <"jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan"[at]mac.com> wrote:
> >
snip.
> >
> > Yep. Slot load feels a lot neater.
>
> I think it might be due to build tolerances, its not always easy to get
> the two parts to line up, esp not with how the LCD iMacs go together.
> Second thing is I suspect the drive needs to be close to the edge of the
> casing as they don't spit the cd out very far, on the LCD iMacs the
> drive is quite well recessed into the unit.
>
and with the crt imacs the mac would be closer while the lcd ones the
imac would be further away due to the mobile screen?
> Next one is just a all in general Apple laptop design flaw, HD access.
> On many laptops nowadays you drop one screw out the base, slide the
> drive out, take it out its carrier, put new one in, slide back in,
> replace screw, 30 seconds job done. If not the iBook they should at
> least do this to the PB. Apple iBooks and I'm assuming the PBs are
> pretty similar are a task and a half, even once you are in there, you
> have to take off a weird shapes IO shield that covers everything in your
> sight, it could have been 3 seperate pieces to simplify matters, but no,
> just to keep it complicated they've pot riveted all the pieces together.
yes that does appear to be a minus used to have hot swapable drives
etc....
roger
Roger Merriman wrote:
> Bella Jones <me9[at]privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> leeg <leeg[at]teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk.valid> wrote:
>>
>> > zoara wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > What particular hardware design decision has made you raise your
>> > > eyebrows and think "they really didn't think that one through"?
>> > >
>> > > What about you?
>> > >
>> >
>> > The eMac only has USB1.1. And ships with far too little memory.
>>
>> Damn - you got in there first! :-)
>
> yeah that is a bit poor though for most usb stuff the speed will be
> largly irrlevent and rember that firewire is a better connection for
> data any way as its constant rate, but even so feels like there
> skimping.
>>
1: USB cameras/scanners/printers/disks/flash devices/etc.
2: There's no firewire 800 on the emac either. :-(
--
Graham Lee
I am leeg, for we are many
"Memory is like an orgasm. It's a lot better if you don't have to fake it."
- Seymour Cray
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Peter Lee
03-07-2004, 06:32 PM
Mike Jenkins <usenet_no_spam[at]kwik-e-mart.org> wrote:
> zoara <me3[at]privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > What about you?
>
> Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
> like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
>
Ah - now I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you on that one - I found
the locations of the ports on my old TiBook really quite irritating -
always having to climb 'over' the screen just to plug something in. Of
close it, and then still having to lift the damn thing up to see the
ports properly.
With the AlBook, I can 'hot-swap' to my heart's delight, without even
having to do more than glance at the ports.
Clearly, YMDV!
Peter
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Stuart Bell
03-07-2004, 07:18 PM
zoara <me3[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> What about you?
Power input jacks for PowerBooks/iBooks all seem vulnerable to knock
damage, which can make the laptop unusable. They should recess them
seriously, so that only the lead protrudes from the case surface.
Stuart
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Roger Merriman
03-07-2004, 07:22 PM
Bella Jones <me9[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> leeg <leeg[at]teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk.valid> wrote:
>
> > Bella Jones wrote:
> >
> > > jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan <"jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan"[at]mac.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Mike Jenkins wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
> > >> > like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
> > >>
> > >> Agree with that one. Also tray load drives on LCD iMacs, I miss the
> > >> slot load of my old Blue Dalmation.
> > >
> > > Yep. Slot load feels a lot neater.
> > >
> > >
> > It's a bit more breakable though, so I can see why they went with the
> > tray-loading models. Unfortunately as you say they do *feel* wrong; it
> > adds to the feeling that you're using a laptop computer in a funny shaped
> > box. In fact, having taken a couple of iMacs apart, you *are* using a
> > laptop computer in a funny shaped box!
>
> And the temptation to put a cup of tea or ashtray there, like on that
> ad, is all a bit too much. :-)
or a beer can? for drunken chatting.....;)
roger
Roger Merriman
03-07-2004, 07:22 PM
leeg <leeg[at]teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk.valid> wrote:
> Roger Merriman wrote:
>
snip
> >
> > yeah that is a bit poor though for most usb stuff the speed will be
> > largly irrlevent and rember that firewire is a better connection for
> > data any way as its constant rate, but even so feels like there
> > skimping.
> >>
>
> 1: USB cameras/scanners/printers/disks/flash devices/etc.
> 2: There's no firewire 800 on the emac either. :-(
yeah bit poor for scanning etc would it make much for printing?
well you only get one firewire 800 on the G5 so... intresting because
firewire is constant rate a harddrive on FW400 should be faster than usb
2 as though usb 2 is margly max rate it doen't maintain the rate...
roger
Elliott Roper
03-07-2004, 07:29 PM
In article <1gaam40.1n6h7ah1g8030gN%peterlee[at]softhome.net>, Peter Lee
<peterlee[at]softhome.net> wrote:
> Mike Jenkins <usenet_no_spam[at]kwik-e-mart.org> wrote:
>
> > zoara <me3[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > What about you?
> >
> > Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
> > like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
> >
> Ah - now I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you on that one - I found
> the locations of the ports on my old TiBook really quite irritating -
> always having to climb 'over' the screen just to plug something in. Of
> close it, and then still having to lift the damn thing up to see the
> ports properly.
>
> With the AlBook, I can 'hot-swap' to my heart's delight, without even
> having to do more than glance at the ports.
>
>
> Clearly, YMDV!
Absolutely. Ugly as sin, but far easier to use. I'm a southpaw, and
you'd think the cables coming out of the 12" AlBook would tangle with
the rodent, but its OK. 7 of the 9 holes normally have plugs in. It is
much faster to hook and unhook everything than it was with the old
TiBook.
--
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address. fsnospam$elliott$$
Woody
03-07-2004, 07:32 PM
Bella Jones <me9[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> leeg <leeg[at]teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk.valid> wrote:
>
> > zoara wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > What particular hardware design decision has made you raise your
> > > eyebrows and think "they really didn't think that one through"?
> > >
> > > What about you?
> > >
> >
> > The eMac only has USB1.1. And ships with far too little memory.
>
> Damn - you got in there first! :-)
>
> White matte keyboard not a great idea either.
Love the keyboard. So much better to see in low light than the black
one.
--
Woody
Alienrat Design Ltd
Roger Merriman wrote:
> Bella Jones <me9[at]privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
>>leeg <leeg[at]teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk.valid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bella Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan <"jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan"[at]mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Mike Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Putting a large number of I/O ports on the SIDE of a laptop so it looks
>>>>>>like a bloody mess with more than a couple of things plugged in.
>>>>>
>>>>>Agree with that one. Also tray load drives on LCD iMacs, I miss the
>>>>>slot load of my old Blue Dalmation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yep. Slot load feels a lot neater.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's a bit more breakable though, so I can see why they went with the
>>>tray-loading models. Unfortunately as you say they do *feel* wrong; it
>>>adds to the feeling that you're using a laptop computer in a funny shaped
>>>box. In fact, having taken a couple of iMacs apart, you *are* using a
>>>laptop computer in a funny shaped box!
>>
>>And the temptation to put a cup of tea or ashtray there, like on that
>>ad, is all a bit too much. :-)
>
>
> or a beer can? for drunken chatting.....;)
although I did like the 1st LCD iMac TC ad, when it sticks out its' to
'tongue'
Jim
Roger Merriman wrote:
>
> the slot load on the powerbook is fine but i really don't like the one
> on the imac it boke a number of times, it has allways felt iffy doesn't
> grab the disk well nor ejject it well and it seems to have more problem
> reading the disks than the powerbook i have some dvd's that will not
> play on the imac but will on the powerbook, some that have scraches some
> that the imac just plain doen't like...not a good drive all in told.
Actually I prefered the iMac slot drive (CDRW) to the one on my
powerbook (superdrive). The iMac one grabbed the disc earlier, the
pBook the disc is almost fully before it is grabbed. Mind you it does
make a very satisfying 'Clunk' :-)
Jim
Bella Jones wrote:
> White matte keyboard not a great idea either.
>
This ones hardly a design flaw, but the new white keyboards with the
rear USB ports, a la G5, just aren't as cool as the previous ones.
actually it's just that crappy bit of plastic around the cursor keys
that bugs me :-S
Jim
Stuart Bell wrote:
> zoara <me3[at]privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
>>What about you?
>
>
> Power input jacks for PowerBooks/iBooks all seem vulnerable to knock
> damage, which can make the laptop unusable.
or in my mum's case, the jack on the cable seemed prone to cat chewing. :-S
jim
Roger Merriman
03-07-2004, 08:51 PM
jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan <"jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan"[at]mac.com> wrote:
> Roger Merriman wrote:
> > Bella Jones <me9[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>leeg <leeg[at]teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk.valid> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Bella Jones wrote:
snipped
> >>And the temptation to put a cup of tea or ashtray there, like on that
> >>ad, is all a bit too much. :-)
> >
> >
> > or a beer can? for drunken chatting.....;)
>
> although I did like the 1st LCD iMac TC ad, when it sticks out its' to
> 'tongue'
>
> Jim
heheh yeah one of my mates enthosticly told me about that before i'd
seen it, was a good daft advert.
roger
Roger Merriman
03-07-2004, 08:51 PM
jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan <"jim_<NOSPAM>mcgowan"[at]mac.com> wrote:
> Roger Merriman wrote:
>
>
> >
> > the slot load on the powerbook is fine but i really don't like the one
> > on the imac it boke a number of times, it has allways felt iffy doesn't
> > grab the disk well nor ejject it well and it seems to have more problem
> > reading the disks than the powerbook i have some dvd's that will not
> > play on the imac but will on the powerbook, some that have scraches some
> > that the imac just plain doen't like...not a good drive all in told.
>
> Actually I prefered the iMac slot drive (CDRW) to the one on my
> powerbook (superdrive). The iMac one grabbed the disc earlier, the
> pBook the disc is almost fully before it is grabbed. Mind you it does
> make a very satisfying 'Clunk' :-)
>
> Jim
yeah it got me the first time its like you working push it in bit
more....then finaly it grabs it. but it seems to be a better drive in
that it reads disk that have been scrached etc with out a hitch unlike
the imac which woukld get quite upset...
roger
James Savage
03-07-2004, 09:45 PM
zoara <me3[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> What particular hardware design decision has made you raise your
> eyebrows and think "they really didn't think that one through"?
ADC.
Yes it's neat, but it requires special graphics cards for Apple monitors
and expensive adapters for DVi. It also kills monitor sales to PC users.
Propriatary connectors may offer handy features, but standards are often
more convenient.
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David DeCristoforo
03-07-2004, 11:31 PM
Sheesh....where do you start? Single button mouse?? No front breakout
ports?? Finally a couple on the G5 tower but only 2 internal drive
bays??? No second optical drive bay??? Only two USB and FW ports on
the back panel??? All (lacking) on the largest desktop case short of a
full tower server? And how about flash media slots? I find it hard to
belive that Apple's designers have ever actually USED a computer!
DD
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 11:17:20 +0000, me3[at]privacy.net (zoara) wrote:
>
>We've talked about various flaws in OSX - and OS9 for those who want to
>'fight back' - but what about the hardware....?
>
>
>What particular hardware design decision has made you raise your
>eyebrows and think "they really didn't think that one through"?
>
>The one that irks me the most is the position of the line-out port on
>the iPod dock. The iPod cable has a release mechanism controlled by
>squeezing the edges of the plug. If you have that cable and a line out
>cable plugged into the dock, you can't get to the edge of the iPod cable
>to squeeze it so you can pull it out. You have to pull the line-out
>cable, then the iPod cable, then re-plug the line-out....
>
>Not a huge issue, but something that they seem not to have thought
>about.
>
>What about you?
>
>
> -zoara-
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