View Full Version : problems with saving II: A cure?
florianluethy[at]hotmail.com
06-30-2003, 09:51 PM
Hi All,
Maybe I've found a little cure for the "too many files are open -word
won't save"-bug. I tried a lot today (incl. disk permission repair,
copy - paste without the last paragraph, disenable fast save and so
on) but nothing worked. Then I took a last try: SELECT THE WHOLE TEXT,
then TOOLS --> LANGUAGE and mark the whole selected text with only ONE
language (e.g. german) (Thats no cure for you Thomas, I know, but at
least we are little step further... I checked in the Terminal and
there weren't any lines which you described earlier (like 1000 times
opening xx dictionary). Before I did my Language thing I experienced
the same as you did in the Terminal-text!). That worked, at least for
today. I'll let you know what will happen tomorrow (*knock on wood*).
thanks for reading!
florian
John McGhie [MVP - Word]
07-01-2003, 03:42 AM
Hi Florian:
Yes, I agree that is likely.
The problem is that word gets more files open than the Operating System will
allow.
If you mark the text with only one language, you will then close all the
other language spelling and grammar resources, which will free up a lot of
available file handles.
Cheers
This responds to microsoft.public.mac.office.word on 30 Jun 2003 13:51:08
-0700, florianluethy[at]hotmail.com:
> Hi All,
>
> Maybe I've found a little cure for the "too many files are open -word
> won't save"-bug. I tried a lot today (incl. disk permission repair,
> copy - paste without the last paragraph, disenable fast save and so
> on) but nothing worked. Then I took a last try: SELECT THE WHOLE TEXT,
> then TOOLS --> LANGUAGE and mark the whole selected text with only ONE
> language (e.g. german) (Thats no cure for you Thomas, I know, but at
> least we are little step further... I checked in the Terminal and
> there weren't any lines which you described earlier (like 1000 times
> opening xx dictionary). Before I did my Language thing I experienced
> the same as you did in the Terminal-text!). That worked, at least for
> today. I'll let you know what will happen tomorrow (*knock on wood*).
>
> thanks for reading!
>
>
> florian
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florianluethy[at]hotmail.com
07-01-2003, 02:36 PM
Hi All!
Thanks for answering John!
Up until now, everything went fine. I have switched off spell check
(as well as Fast save :-) ) and only use the hyphenation tool. The
problem didn''t show up anymore as well as the 1000 lines of opening a
dictionary in the Terminal were gone. I think I'll leave it like that
and hope the bug finally disappeared. But it's quite a pity that it
seems one can't mark different languages in Word. However, I''m
really glad it seems to be fixed now.
But John, if your sources tell you a better cure than this, please let
us know!
btw: I read you were talking about Office 11. Is this gonna be a new
Mac Version?
Cheers from Switzerland to the other end of the World!
florian
"John McGhie [MVP - Word]" <john[at]mcghie-information.com.au> wrote in message news:<i6t1gv8ch9hj8tg2rjntktsdtj4r798f2o[at]4ax.com>...
> Hi Florian:
>
> Yes, I agree that is likely.
>
> The problem is that word gets more files open than the Operating System will
> allow.
>
> If you mark the text with only one language, you will then close all the
> other language spelling and grammar resources, which will free up a lot of
> available file handles.
>
> Cheers
>
> This responds to microsoft.public.mac.office.word on 30 Jun 2003 13:51:08
> -0700, florianluethy[at]hotmail.com:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Maybe I've found a little cure for the "too many files are open -word
> > won't save"-bug. I tried a lot today (incl. disk permission repair,
> > copy - paste without the last paragraph, disenable fast save and so
> > on) but nothing worked. Then I took a last try: SELECT THE WHOLE TEXT,
> > then TOOLS --> LANGUAGE and mark the whole selected text with only ONE
> > language (e.g. german) (Thats no cure for you Thomas, I know, but at
> > least we are little step further... I checked in the Terminal and
> > there weren't any lines which you described earlier (like 1000 times
> > opening xx dictionary). Before I did my Language thing I experienced
> > the same as you did in the Terminal-text!). That worked, at least for
> > today. I'll let you know what will happen tomorrow (*knock on wood*).
> >
> > thanks for reading!
> >
> >
> > florian
>
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John McGhie [MVP - Word]
07-02-2003, 07:30 AM
Hi Florian:
This responds to microsoft.public.mac.office.word on 1 Jul 2003 06:36:52
-0700, florianluethy[at]hotmail.com:
The *important* part of the cure is to switch ON "Always create backup
copy". Switching OFF Fast Saves does nothing: but switching on "Always
create backup copy" changes the way Word handles document files. It also
automatically switches off Fast Saves.
You should understand that Fast Saves is not useful on a modern computer:
the saves are no faster, but the crashes certainly are.
Yes, there will be a new version of Word on the Mac. I have no idea whether
it is to be called Word 11 or something else, nor do I know when it will be
available. You need to understand that those who know such details are not
allowed to tell us, and those who tell us don't know :-)
Cheers
> Up until now, everything went fine. I have switched off spell check
> (as well as Fast save :-) ) and only use the hyphenation tool. The
> problem didn''t show up anymore as well as the 1000 lines of opening a
> dictionary in the Terminal were gone. I think I'll leave it like that
> and hope the bug finally disappeared. But it's quite a pity that it
> seems one can't mark different languages in Word. However, I''m
> really glad it seems to be fixed now.
>
> But John, if your sources tell you a better cure than this, please let
> us know!
>
> btw: I read you were talking about Office 11. Is this gonna be a new
> Mac Version?
>
>
> Cheers from Switzerland to the other end of the World!
>
> florian
>
> "John McGhie [MVP - Word]" <john[at]mcghie-information.com.au> wrote in message news:<i6t1gv8ch9hj8tg2rjntktsdtj4r798f2o[at]4ax.com>...
> > Hi Florian:
> >
> > Yes, I agree that is likely.
> >
> > The problem is that word gets more files open than the Operating System will
> > allow.
> >
> > If you mark the text with only one language, you will then close all the
> > other language spelling and grammar resources, which will free up a lot of
> > available file handles.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > This responds to microsoft.public.mac.office.word on 30 Jun 2003 13:51:08
> > -0700, florianluethy[at]hotmail.com:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Maybe I've found a little cure for the "too many files are open -word
> > > won't save"-bug. I tried a lot today (incl. disk permission repair,
> > > copy - paste without the last paragraph, disenable fast save and so
> > > on) but nothing worked. Then I took a last try: SELECT THE WHOLE TEXT,
> > > then TOOLS --> LANGUAGE and mark the whole selected text with only ONE
> > > language (e.g. german) (Thats no cure for you Thomas, I know, but at
> > > least we are little step further... I checked in the Terminal and
> > > there weren't any lines which you described earlier (like 1000 times
> > > opening xx dictionary). Before I did my Language thing I experienced
> > > the same as you did in the Terminal-text!). That worked, at least for
> > > today. I'll let you know what will happen tomorrow (*knock on wood*).
> > >
> > > thanks for reading!
> > >
> > >
> > > florian
> >
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> >
> > John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer
> > McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
> > Sydney, Australia. GMT + 10 Hrs
> > +61 4 1209 1410, mailto:john[at]mcghie-information.com.au
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florianluethy[at]hotmail.com
07-03-2003, 09:32 PM
Hi John!
Thanks a lot for your help! Up until now the bug seems to have gone.
And I won't change anything in my preferences until there may be a new
version :-)
Thanks again! Really, you do a great job in here and I think a lot of
people are very grateful (or at least they should be!)!
All my best to you!
florian
"John McGhie [MVP - Word]" <john[at]mcghie-information.com.au> wrote in message news:<snu4gv41pfi3mclgefei4r4f56i8cf1e64[at]4ax.com>...
> Hi Florian:
>
> This responds to microsoft.public.mac.office.word on 1 Jul 2003 06:36:52
> -0700, florianluethy[at]hotmail.com:
>
> The *important* part of the cure is to switch ON "Always create backup
> copy". Switching OFF Fast Saves does nothing: but switching on "Always
> create backup copy" changes the way Word handles document files. It also
> automatically switches off Fast Saves.
>
> You should understand that Fast Saves is not useful on a modern computer:
> the saves are no faster, but the crashes certainly are.
>
> Yes, there will be a new version of Word on the Mac. I have no idea whether
> it is to be called Word 11 or something else, nor do I know when it will be
> available. You need to understand that those who know such details are not
> allowed to tell us, and those who tell us don't know :-)
>
> Cheers
>
> > Up until now, everything went fine. I have switched off spell check
> > (as well as Fast save :-) ) and only use the hyphenation tool. The
> > problem didn''t show up anymore as well as the 1000 lines of opening a
> > dictionary in the Terminal were gone. I think I'll leave it like that
> > and hope the bug finally disappeared. But it's quite a pity that it
> > seems one can't mark different languages in Word. However, I''m
> > really glad it seems to be fixed now.
> >
> > But John, if your sources tell you a better cure than this, please let
> > us know!
> >
> > btw: I read you were talking about Office 11. Is this gonna be a new
> > Mac Version?
> >
> >
> > Cheers from Switzerland to the other end of the World!
> >
> > florian
> >
> > "John McGhie [MVP - Word]" <john[at]mcghie-information.com.au> wrote in message news:<i6t1gv8ch9hj8tg2rjntktsdtj4r798f2o[at]4ax.com>...
> > > Hi Florian:
> > >
> > > Yes, I agree that is likely.
> > >
> > > The problem is that word gets more files open than the Operating System will
> > > allow.
> > >
> > > If you mark the text with only one language, you will then close all the
> > > other language spelling and grammar resources, which will free up a lot of
> > > available file handles.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > This responds to microsoft.public.mac.office.word on 30 Jun 2003 13:51:08
> > > -0700, florianluethy[at]hotmail.com:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I've found a little cure for the "too many files are open -word
> > > > won't save"-bug. I tried a lot today (incl. disk permission repair,
> > > > copy - paste without the last paragraph, disenable fast save and so
> > > > on) but nothing worked. Then I took a last try: SELECT THE WHOLE TEXT,
> > > > then TOOLS --> LANGUAGE and mark the whole selected text with only ONE
> > > > language (e.g. german) (Thats no cure for you Thomas, I know, but at
> > > > least we are little step further... I checked in the Terminal and
> > > > there weren't any lines which you described earlier (like 1000 times
> > > > opening xx dictionary). Before I did my Language thing I experienced
> > > > the same as you did in the Terminal-text!). That worked, at least for
> > > > today. I'll let you know what will happen tomorrow (*knock on wood*).
> > > >
> > > > thanks for reading!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > florian
> > >
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> > > John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer
> > > McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
> > > Sydney, Australia. GMT + 10 Hrs
> > > +61 4 1209 1410, mailto:john[at]mcghie-information.com.au
>
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