Thanks, Phillip. I appreciate the information.

--
Beth Rosengard
Mac MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/WordMac/index.html>
Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>


On 6/27/03 1:17 PM, in article 3EFCA66D.DB2B7EA6[at]kimbanet.com, "Phillip M.
Jones, C.E.T." <pjones[at]kimbanet.com> wrote:

> As long as you have computer on and do repair permissions certain
> permissions stay fixed for duration the the session only. Once you turn
> system off, or have to restart, then you'll have to repair those
> permissions again. THey "always" show up as the first two items though.
> If you have persistant permissions problem runing repair permissions may
> help. And doing multiple pass won't hurt.
>
> If you want to know which permissions are False positives. Repair
> permissions until you see a clean bill of health. Then cut computer off.
> wait a few seconds then restart computer and do repair permissions again.
>
> If there is only two items repaired write the text down. Those "are" the
> false positives. IN fact the Apple info server in the dicuments should
> show the text of the false positives.
>
> The documents were placed on the info server because apple got many
> reports of people repairing permissions almost every time they started
> up, because they were told at some point they needed to.
>
> The recommendation is to repair permissions only when you are having
> problems and strange symptoms, not to do so as general daily maintenance.
>
> Beth Rosengard wrote:
>>
>> Hi Phillip,
>>
>> Thanks for that. I really appreciate the information.
>>
>> So is it never useful to repeat disk permissions immediately? Is once
>> sufficient to catch all existing problems at that particular moment?
>>
>> --
>> Beth Rosengard
>> Mac MVP
>>
>> Mac Word FAQ: <http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/WordMac/index.html>
>> Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>
>>
>> On 6/26/03 4:17 PM, in article 3EFB7F0C.BBD067E5[at]kimbanet.com, "Phillip M.
>> Jones, C.E.T." <pjones[at]kimbanet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey beth,
>>>
>>> There are some documents about false positives for disk permissions on
>>> apple's info server.
>>>
>>> So its "imposible" to get a clean bill of health.
>>>
>>> Turns out its a natural occurance of Unix and apple didn't account for
>>> it; You can do a repair pemissions and the first two items shown always
>>> will be the false positives.
>>>
>>> They will be repaired; but the very next time you crank up the system
>>> and repair permissions these two items will be repaired again, and again.
>>>
>>> Unix is really designed for people who load it on a new computer and the
>>> next time the system is turned off is when the computer blows up and
>>> needs repair, or is replaced after years of use. Running for years at a
>>> time.
>>>
>>> OSX users are used to, when you go to bed at night or leave work, you
>>> shut down computer and turn power off. And if your in Thunderstorm prone
>>> areas you unplug from power altogether.
>>>
>>> Thats the reason we have to have Applications such as MacJanitor, and
>>> Cocktail to run cron scripts in the middle of the day as opposed to
>>> 3:00am in the morning when unix is set up naturally to do it.
>>>
>>> Sorry for going off on a tangent. Repairing permissions is a good idea
>>> and fixes a lot of problems, But you'll never get a 100% clean bill of
>>> health.
>>>
>>> Beth Rosengard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rich,
>>>>
>>>> When you say "all updates installed", you do mean at least to 10.1.2,
>>>> right?
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried Repairing Disk Permissions? For OS 10.2.x:
>>>> Go to Macintosh HD/Applications/Utilities. Open up Disk Utility. Select
>>>> your hard disk, then click the First Aid tab. Click the button to "Repair
>>>> Disk Permissions".
>>>>
>>>> Run it a few times until nothing turns up. Any help?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Beth Rosengard
>>>> Mac MVP
>>>>
>>>> Mac Word FAQ: <http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/WordMac/index.html>
>>>> Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/26/03 9:55 AM, in article BB208F9B.7531%rheend[at]thembcgroup.com,
>>>> "Richard Heend" <rheend[at]thembcgroup.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I routinely need to send Word documents as attachments to co-workers and
>>>>> clients, so I am a big fan of the Send To > Mail Recipient command in
>>>>> Word.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have noticed a significant increase in the number of crashes I get when
>>>>> I
>>>>> use this command. Typically, I selected Send to > Mail Recipient... Then
>>>>> Entourage opens, attaches the file and Word quits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any way to fix this?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm running Office X (all updates installed) and 10.2.6 on a 14" iBook,
>>>>> 600MHz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> -rich <rheend[at]thembcgroup.com>
>>>>>

Here's an update on my situation.

In the two weeks since my last post, I had a total failure of my hard drive.
Luckily I had a good backup so little time was lost, except for the time
spent reinstalling applications.

Anyway, this gave me the opportunity to fresh installs and combo updaters on
all my applications. I now have a brand-new install of 10.2 with the 10.2.6
combo updater, and office 10.1.2.

I have a document that is created in Word and saved on an AFP file server. I
save the file, and then use the send --> to command. Four times out of five,
word crashes. Oddly enough, the crash happens AFTER the script attaches the
file and opens a new message in Entourage.

I find it puzzling that this problem has recurred with fresh installs...

Any insights?

Thanks,
-rich

On 6/28/03 10:11 PM, in article BB23A6E0.262A2%bethrosengard[at]earthlink.net,
"Beth Rosengard" <bethrosengard[at]earthlink.net> wrote:

> Thanks, Phillip. I appreciate the information.