Lets say you have a movie made entirely of photos with transistions between
them. But its a NTSC file as no camcorder was connected when the file
project was created.

Is there any way of exporting an EDL (Edit Decision List I think) from
iMovie, so you can recreate the project as PAL, shove the clips and the
edits/renders back in, re-render and all done.

I'm expecting to be told "you can't" but surprise me?

Clive Sweeting <clive[at]sweet-apple.co.uk> wrote:

> Lets say you have a movie made entirely of photos with transistions between
> them. But its a NTSC file as no camcorder was connected when the file
> project was created.
>
> Is there any way of exporting an EDL (Edit Decision List I think) from
> iMovie, so you can recreate the project as PAL, shove the clips and the
> edits/renders back in, re-render and all done.
>
> I'm expecting to be told "you can't" but surprise me?

open the imovie project in bbedit and change where it says NTSC to PAL


--
Woody

On 3/7/03 20:22, in article 1fxjf6w.1ttcbpq1x2wxilN%usenet[at]alienrat.co.uk,
"Woody" <usenet[at]alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

>> I'm expecting to be told "you can't" but surprise me?
>
> open the imovie project in bbedit and change where it says NTSC to PAL

Eh? Surely all the renders will be output at 640x480 and hence need to be
redone?

Clive Sweeting <clive[at]sweet-apple.co.uk> wrote:

> On 3/7/03 20:22, in article 1fxjf6w.1ttcbpq1x2wxilN%usenet[at]alienrat.co.uk,
> "Woody" <usenet[at]alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> I'm expecting to be told "you can't" but surprise me?
> >
> > open the imovie project in bbedit and change where it says NTSC to PAL
>
> Eh? Surely all the renders will be output at 640x480 and hence need to be
> redone?

I would have thought if they were photos then it wouldn't matter but I
don't know for sure. I know thats how you make a PAL project.

If it was me I would make a duplicate and try it.


--
Woody

On 3/7/03 21:50, in article 1fxjiyt.5fhgm81b08ua1N%usenet[at]alienrat.co.uk,
"Woody" <usenet[at]alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> I would have thought if they were photos then it wouldn't matter but I
> don't know for sure. I know thats how you make a PAL project.
>
> If it was me I would make a duplicate and try it.

Done it. It shows up as a PAL movie, except it isn't.

All stills are imported in as single frame DV streams. All transitions are
still NTSC renders. If you remove them then the timeline get buggered.

Clive Sweeting wrote:
> On 3/7/03 21:50, in article 1fxjiyt.5fhgm81b08ua1N%usenet[at]alienrat.co.uk,
> "Woody" <usenet[at]alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>I would have thought if they were photos then it wouldn't matter but I
>>don't know for sure. I know thats how you make a PAL project.
>>
>>If it was me I would make a duplicate and try it.
>
>
> Done it. It shows up as a PAL movie, except it isn't.
>
> All stills are imported in as single frame DV streams. All transitions are
> still NTSC renders. If you remove them then the timeline get buggered.
>
---
I am not sure that this would work, but it is
worth a try.

Go into iMovie Prefrences and make sure that New
Projects are set to PAL. Open a New Project and
import the files from the original project. I've
just run a PAL->PAL test on this.

You cannot just import the original enmass. For
example, Voice files will not import, but .jpgs
do, at least in PAL to PAL. Transitions are
displayed as frames, but they still work. So IF it
works you still have to sort everything back into
order again.

Whatever you get should be PAL, although what it
will look like I don't know. But you will tell
me, won't you :-)

PS I take it you are using iMove 3.0.3. Earlier
versions were a dog's breakfast.

Jim

I am not neurotic, so remove the 'N' from Eurog

On 5/7/03 11:54, in article
Titus_Atomicus-F7FC2D.12541105072003[at]gw3.news.tpi.pl,
"Titus_Atomicus[at]somewhere.co.uk" <Titus_Atomicus[at]somewhere.co.uk> wrote:

> Not solves your problem but it might be helpful though:
> http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/18239

Ta. But this project was done in 9, so no dice....

In article <BB2C76C6.40171%clive[at]sweet-apple.co.uk>, Clive Sweeting
<clive[at]sweet-apple.co.uk> wrote:

> On 5/7/03 11:54, in article
> Titus_Atomicus-F7FC2D.12541105072003[at]gw3.news.tpi.pl,
> "Titus_Atomicus[at]somewhere.co.uk" <Titus_Atomicus[at]somewhere.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Not solves your problem but it might be helpful though:
> > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/18239
>
> Ta. But this project was done in 9, so no dice....
>

I don't thnk you have much chance on the EDL route, since NTSC
timecodes are a different rate and almost always in drop frame format
too. Without a batch capture facility iMovie can't make much use of an
EDL

If you could get the original pictures you would be best off nicking
the audio from the NTSC and doing the video again from scratch.

Even if you have to steal the stills from the NTSC with
GraphicConverter, it might still be easier to start again with those.