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L Major
10-21-2003, 02:14 PM
Hi

I have an old mac [8100/80] and a bunch of optical disks which I used to
store my artwork on. I have not been using it much for a couple of years.

I wanted to transer my artwork to my current computer [PC/linux] for
archiving as there may not be a lot of life left in the 8100.

I have a server and set up a file upload page and tried to zip and upload
the files via ethernet but IE5 gets cut off after couple of minutes. I am
able to upload small files [under 1 mg] but that way it would take a long
time [around 2 gb of data].

Artworks are on 128/230 optical disks on a SCSI optical drive.

Any suggestion of how I could transfer the files?

They are generally gif/jpg and photoshop files.

Many thanks for the help

:)

Alan Zisman
10-21-2003, 03:00 PM
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:14:05 +0100, "L Major" <LMajor[at]hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Hi
>
>I have an old mac [8100/80] and a bunch of optical disks which I used to
>store my artwork on. I have not been using it much for a couple of years.
>
>I wanted to transer my artwork to my current computer [PC/linux] for
>archiving as there may not be a lot of life left in the 8100.
>
>I have a server and set up a file upload page and tried to zip and upload
>the files via ethernet but IE5 gets cut off after couple of minutes. I am
>able to upload small files [under 1 mg] but that way it would take a long
>time [around 2 gb of data].
>
>Artworks are on 128/230 optical disks on a SCSI optical drive.
>
>Any suggestion of how I could transfer the files?
>
>They are generally gif/jpg and photoshop files.
>
>Many thanks for the help
>
Can you FTP to your server? That might provide a more stable upload.
There are a large number of FTP clients for Mac, such as Fetch.

Steve
10-21-2003, 04:09 PM
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:14:05 -0700, L Major wrote
(in message <1066741959.859387[at]ananke.eclipse.net.uk>):

> Hi
>
> I have an old mac [8100/80] and a bunch of optical disks which I used to
> store my artwork on. I have not been using it much for a couple of years.
>
> I wanted to transer my artwork to my current computer [PC/linux] for
> archiving as there may not be a lot of life left in the 8100.
>
> I have a server and set up a file upload page and tried to zip and upload
> the files via ethernet but IE5 gets cut off after couple of minutes. I am
> able to upload small files [under 1 mg] but that way it would take a long
> time [around 2 gb of data].
>
> Artworks are on 128/230 optical disks on a SCSI optical drive.
>
> Any suggestion of how I could transfer the files?
>
> They are generally gif/jpg and photoshop files.
>
> Many thanks for the help
>
>>>
>
>

It sounds to me like more of a networking problem than anything else. There
should be no good reason that I can think of for file transfer to be cut off
after a few minutes. I would be looking at the network or networking settings
on the computers in question.

Steve

L Major
10-21-2003, 05:01 PM
"Steve" <nobodyNOSPAM[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BBBA9A2F020B60FAF0305600[at]netnews.comcast.net...
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:14:05 -0700, L Major wrote
> (in message <1066741959.859387[at]ananke.eclipse.net.uk>):
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I have an old mac [8100/80] and a bunch of optical disks which I used to
> > store my artwork on. I have not been using it much for a couple of
years.
> >
> > I wanted to transer my artwork to my current computer [PC/linux] for
> > archiving as there may not be a lot of life left in the 8100.
> >
> > I have a server and set up a file upload page and tried to zip and
upload
> > the files via ethernet but IE5 gets cut off after couple of minutes. I
am
> > able to upload small files [under 1 mg] but that way it would take a
long
> > time [around 2 gb of data].
> >
> > Artworks are on 128/230 optical disks on a SCSI optical drive.
> >
> > Any suggestion of how I could transfer the files?
> >
> > They are generally gif/jpg and photoshop files.
> >
> > Many thanks for the help
> >
> >>>
> >
> >
>
> It sounds to me like more of a networking problem than anything else.
There
> should be no good reason that I can think of for file transfer to be cut
off
> after a few minutes. I would be looking at the network or networking
settings
> on the computers in question.
>
> Steve
>

Thank you.

There is no Networking as such. I have server running Apache and wrote a php
script to upload files. I just tried from another computer and uploaded a 33
mb zip without any probelms.

It took only 10-15 seconds.

In case of 8100/80, not only the ethernet is much slower, it also has a
slower hd read. An upload of 1 mb took over a minute on the same set up via
the same router.

I have Apapche time out set as 300 seonds which I can increase. I had to
increase the php timeout as it was cutting of at 30. But it still cuts off
before 300 seconds. Next time I will try to increase the Apache time out and
try out.

The 8100/80 is not normally connected. Actually it is normally off and i use
its monitor for another computer.

I can not imagine why but could IE5 time out and disconnect with page not
found?

What was the ethernet speed of the 8100?

Would it be easier to set up a network mac-pc?
At the moment there is no network set up at all for any computer and
computers are only connected via webservers.

FTP would be OK but that would mean setting up an FTP on the 8100/80 which I
have no clue how to do. Another thing is that It is not directly connected
to the net so I can't download anything.

?!?

Steve
10-22-2003, 04:45 PM
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 9:01:37 -0700, L Major wrote
(in message <1066754248.179582[at]ananke.eclipse.net.uk>):

>
> "Steve" <nobodyNOSPAM[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:0001HW.BBBA9A2F020B60FAF0305600[at]netnews.comcast.net...
>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 6:14:05 -0700, L Major wrote
>> (in message <1066741959.859387[at]ananke.eclipse.net.uk>):
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have an old mac [8100/80] and a bunch of optical disks which I used to
>>> store my artwork on. I have not been using it much for a couple of
> years.
>>>
>>> I wanted to transer my artwork to my current computer [PC/linux] for
>>> archiving as there may not be a lot of life left in the 8100.
>>>
>>> I have a server and set up a file upload page and tried to zip and
> upload
>>> the files via ethernet but IE5 gets cut off after couple of minutes. I
> am
>>> able to upload small files [under 1 mg] but that way it would take a
> long
>>> time [around 2 gb of data].
>>>
>>> Artworks are on 128/230 optical disks on a SCSI optical drive.
>>>
>>> Any suggestion of how I could transfer the files?
>>>
>>> They are generally gif/jpg and photoshop files.
>>>
>>> Many thanks for the help
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It sounds to me like more of a networking problem than anything else.
> There
>> should be no good reason that I can think of for file transfer to be cut
> off
>> after a few minutes. I would be looking at the network or networking
> settings
>> on the computers in question.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> Thank you.
>
> There is no Networking as such. I have server running Apache and wrote a php
> script to upload files. I just tried from another computer and uploaded a 33
> mb zip without any probelms.

You and I obviously have a different definition of the word network. For me,
any two devices which are connected are networked. 'Puter to printer, modems,
etc. So with my definition, if the files can be transfered over cable, the
computers are networked somehow.

>
> It took only 10-15 seconds.
>
> In case of 8100/80, not only the ethernet is much slower, it also has a
> slower hd read. An upload of 1 mb took over a minute on the same set up via
> the same router.
>
> I have Apapche time out set as 300 seonds which I can increase. I had to
> increase the php timeout as it was cutting of at 30. But it still cuts off
> before 300 seconds. Next time I will try to increase the Apache time out and
> try out.
>
> The 8100/80 is not normally connected. Actually it is normally off and i use
> its monitor for another computer.
>
> I can not imagine why but could IE5 time out and disconnect with page not
> found?

Sure could. Happens all the time to me on the internet. Usually when the
server doesn't have the page. But also if network traffic is too busy.

>
> What was the ethernet speed of the 8100?

I'm not sure, but I have had a 7100 networked to other, faster macs, and the
speed difference would not be a source of timout problems, IMHO.

>
> Would it be easier to set up a network mac-pc?
> At the moment there is no network set up at all for any computer and
> computers are only connected via webservers.


>
> FTP would be OK but that would mean setting up an FTP on the 8100/80 which I
> have no clue how to do. Another thing is that It is not directly connected
> to the net so I can't download anything.
>
> ?!?
>
>
>
>

You have two tasks as I see it. One is to physically connect the machines via
ethernet equipment. Since you get limited file transfer, I am assuming that
you are fulfilling this requirement. The other is to provide some method of
having the two machines talk to each other. With Mac to Mac, this would be
via enabling AppleTalk or TCP/IP. And turning on File Sharing so that the
target files could be seen and copied from computer to computer.

My guess is that this second area is where you are having troubles. What
services have you set up, and how are you attempting to transfer the files
exactly? You say something about using a php script. Is this something that
you are using from the Linux box to pull the files from the Mac? Have you
enabled file sharing on the Mac?

L Major
10-22-2003, 05:46 PM
<snip>
> You have two tasks as I see it. One is to physically connect the machines
via
> ethernet equipment. Since you get limited file transfer, I am assuming
that
> you are fulfilling this requirement. The other is to provide some method
of
> having the two machines talk to each other. With Mac to Mac, this would be
> via enabling AppleTalk or TCP/IP. And turning on File Sharing so that the
> target files could be seen and copied from computer to computer.
>
> My guess is that this second area is where you are having troubles. What
> services have you set up, and how are you attempting to transfer the files
> exactly? You say something about using a php script. Is this something
that
> you are using from the Linux box to pull the files from the Mac? Have you
> enabled file sharing on the Mac?
>
>
Thank you for the help.



I run a web server on one box [open to public] and another on my dev machine
winXP pro which I use for programming and web design and bug fixing.



I wrote a simple UPLOAD script in PHP.



I use a browser to load the upload page and it has a form which allows you
to upload files to the server. It is similar to any uploads you will find in
any forum scripts where you can upload images or zips.



Such scripts are OS independent and would work with any browser on any OS.
Other benefit is that there would not be any file format problems.



AFA networking, I understand what you mean. What I meant was that none of
the boxes are able to see other boxes or have any interaction except via
internet protocols as if they are connecting to a remote site anywhere
around the world [I can explain further if needed].



There is no file sharing of any sort. As mentioned I tried and uploaded a 30
mb files from one box to another in less than 15 seconds without any hassle
from browser.



I uploaded a 1 mb files from the Mac but got cut off in case of 8 mb one. I
was trying to find out if Mac is cutting off the connection or is it the
server.



I have increased the time out limit of the server and will try again once I
have more time. The 8100 Ethernet is very slow in comparison to current
ones.



:)

whom
10-22-2003, 08:31 PM
L Major wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have an old mac [8100/80] and a bunch of optical disks which I used to
> store my artwork on. I have not been using it much for a couple of years.
>
> I wanted to transer my artwork to my current computer [PC/linux] for
> archiving as there may not be a lot of life left in the 8100.
>
> I have a server and set up a file upload page and tried to zip and upload
> the files via ethernet but IE5 gets cut off after couple of minutes. I am
> able to upload small files [under 1 mg] but that way it would take a long
> time [around 2 gb of data].
>
> Artworks are on 128/230 optical disks on a SCSI optical drive.
>
> Any suggestion of how I could transfer the files?
>
> They are generally gif/jpg and photoshop files.
>
> Many thanks for the help
>
> :)

1. Unless you added an extra PCI fast ethernet card, your 8100 has a
10MB/sec interface, not a 100MB/sec. So, it will be slower to move files
from that particular machine (in comparison to more modern machine with a
built-in 100B/sec interface). I assume you did set a long timeout in PHP
and set the max file size to whatever is appropriate. Transfering a large
amount of data via HTTP file upload is not the most optimized way.

2. As the other poster wrote it, you could start the FTP service on your
Linux machine and upload from the Mac using any free version of Fetch that
you can find on the Net.

3. Start an SMB share on your PC. Grab an eval version of DAVE to run on
your Mac (assuming your run MacOS 8.6 or 9.x).

4. Another option, if you're up to it, start Netatalk on your Linux machine
(you may have to install it, look for it on your Linux distribution CDs or
on sourceforge.net). Once Netatalk is correctly configured and runs (might
be difficult depending on how you feel comfortable with these things) on
your Linux machine it acts as an AppleShare server which you can easily
connect to and mount on your Mac.

L Major
10-22-2003, 08:45 PM
"whom" <whom[at]ever.org> wrote in message
news:sWAlb.1057$I04.802[at]newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> L Major wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I have an old mac [8100/80] and a bunch of optical disks which I used to
> > store my artwork on. I have not been using it much for a couple of
years.
> >
> > I wanted to transer my artwork to my current computer [PC/linux] for
> > archiving as there may not be a lot of life left in the 8100.
> >
> > I have a server and set up a file upload page and tried to zip and
upload
> > the files via ethernet but IE5 gets cut off after couple of minutes. I
am
> > able to upload small files [under 1 mg] but that way it would take a
long
> > time [around 2 gb of data].
> >
> > Artworks are on 128/230 optical disks on a SCSI optical drive.
> >
> > Any suggestion of how I could transfer the files?
> >
> > They are generally gif/jpg and photoshop files.
> >
> > Many thanks for the help
> >
> > :)
>
> 1. Unless you added an extra PCI fast ethernet card, your 8100 has a
> 10MB/sec interface, not a 100MB/sec. So, it will be slower to move files
> from that particular machine (in comparison to more modern machine with a
> built-in 100B/sec interface). I assume you did set a long timeout in PHP
> and set the max file size to whatever is appropriate. Transfering a large
> amount of data via HTTP file upload is not the most optimized way.
>
> 2. As the other poster wrote it, you could start the FTP service on your
> Linux machine and upload from the Mac using any free version of Fetch that
> you can find on the Net.
>
> 3. Start an SMB share on your PC. Grab an eval version of DAVE to run on
> your Mac (assuming your run MacOS 8.6 or 9.x).
>
> 4. Another option, if you're up to it, start Netatalk on your Linux
machine
> (you may have to install it, look for it on your Linux distribution CDs or
> on sourceforge.net). Once Netatalk is correctly configured and runs (might
> be difficult depending on how you feel comfortable with these things) on
> your Linux machine it acts as an AppleShare server which you can easily
> connect to and mount on your Mac.
>
>
Thank you.



8100 is MacOS 8.5.



I have set the correct max file size and change php.ini to allow for large
file transfers [default is 2 meg] and also increase the time out on both
Apache and PHP.



The router/switch I am using is actual 10mb/s so no problems there. However
I noticed much faster transfer between other boxes comparing to 8100.

BTW, 8100 has 48 mb memory ;) and it has to read from scsi Optical disks
before it uploads which resulted in intermittent transfer.



I do not have a FTP set up on the linux box yet. I can not recall if I have
any FTP client on the Mc anyway.





I thought it would be straight forward. Optical disks are 128 and 230 mb
[not all full] so I thought it should be under a minute for each upload but
it seems I was wrong.



BTW, I had them zipped using Aladdin and I was uploading the zips.



I have to give it another try later.



:)

whom
10-22-2003, 09:22 PM
L Major wrote:

> Thank you.
>
> 8100 is MacOS 8.5.
>
> I have set the correct max file size and change php.ini to allow for large
> file transfers [default is 2 meg] and also increase the time out on both
> Apache and PHP.
>
> The router/switch I am using is actual 10mb/s so no problems there.
> However I noticed much faster transfer between other boxes comparing to
> 8100.
>
> BTW, 8100 has 48 mb memory ;) and it has to read from scsi Optical disks
> before it uploads which resulted in intermittent transfer.
>
> I do not have a FTP set up on the linux box yet. I can not recall if I
> have any FTP client on the Mc anyway.
>
> I thought it would be straight forward. Optical disks are 128 and 230 mb
> [not all full] so I thought it should be under a minute for each upload
> [but
> it seems I was wrong.
>
> BTW, I had them zipped using Aladdin and I was uploading the zips.
>
> I have to give it another try later.
>
> :)

Just in case:

1. Did you try different browsers?
2. How much memory do you allocate to the browser?
3. First copy the file on your hard disk, then upload the copy.

Steve
10-22-2003, 09:47 PM
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 9:46:06 -0700, L Major wrote
(in message <1066841079.151461[at]ananke.eclipse.net.uk>):

> <snip>
<SNIP>
> Thank you for the help.
>
>
>
> I run a web server on one box [open to public] and another on my dev machine
> winXP pro which I use for programming and web design and bug fixing.
>
>
>
> I wrote a simple UPLOAD script in PHP.
>
>
>
> I use a browser to load the upload page and it has a form which allows you
> to upload files to the server. It is similar to any uploads you will find in
> any forum scripts where you can upload images or zips.
>
>
>
> Such scripts are OS independent and would work with any browser on any OS.
> Other benefit is that there would not be any file format problems.

I guess that I would say *should* work with any browser. Some browsers are
not as standards compliant as others. Might be worth trying another browser
if nothing else works.

>
>
>
> AFA networking, I understand what you mean. What I meant was that none of
> the boxes are able to see other boxes or have any interaction except via
> internet protocols as if they are connecting to a remote site anywhere
> around the world [I can explain further if needed].

No further explanation needed. Just wanted to make sure we were both talking
the same lingo.

>
>
>
> There is no file sharing of any sort. As mentioned I tried and uploaded a 30
> mb files from one box to another in less than 15 seconds without any hassle
> from browser.
>
>
>
> I uploaded a 1 mb files from the Mac but got cut off in case of 8 mb one. I
> was trying to find out if Mac is cutting off the connection or is it the
> server.

As you say, standard internet protocols are standard. I can think of no
reason that the Mac would stop the tcp/ip connection.

>
>
>
> I have increased the time out limit of the server and will try again once I
> have more time. The 8100 Ethernet is very slow in comparison to current
> ones.

I would imagine that it is noticeably slower, yet it should not force a
timeout issue. There should be plenty of speed to transfer packets unless the
Apache server is set for excessively tight packet loss tolerances. If upping
the timeout limit doesn't do it, I would think about downloading a freeware
ftp program such as Fetch, or even a trial version of Panic Software's
Transmit (the older version *should* run on your 8100). If you have Stuffit
Deluxe or Expander on the 8100 you should be able to get a compressed
installer of Fetch or Transmit by first downloading to the Apache server,
then using a browser to download to the 8100. Fetch and Transmit are so easy
to use that you don't even need to use a manual if you have ever used an FTP
program before. If you set up FTP services on the Apache, you should be able
to initiate a FTP connection from the 8100 and upload files all day long.

Good luck

Steve C

>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>

L Major
10-23-2003, 09:06 AM
"whom" <whom[at]ever.org> wrote in message
news:AGBlb.1253$wc3.396[at]newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> L Major wrote:
>
> > Thank you.
> >
> > 8100 is MacOS 8.5.
> >
> > I have set the correct max file size and change php.ini to allow for
large
> > file transfers [default is 2 meg] and also increase the time out on both
> > Apache and PHP.
> >
> > The router/switch I am using is actual 10mb/s so no problems there.
> > However I noticed much faster transfer between other boxes comparing to
> > 8100.
> >
> > BTW, 8100 has 48 mb memory ;) and it has to read from scsi Optical disks
> > before it uploads which resulted in intermittent transfer.
> >
> > I do not have a FTP set up on the linux box yet. I can not recall if I
> > have any FTP client on the Mc anyway.
> >
> > I thought it would be straight forward. Optical disks are 128 and 230 mb
> > [not all full] so I thought it should be under a minute for each upload
> > [but
> > it seems I was wrong.
> >
> > BTW, I had them zipped using Aladdin and I was uploading the zips.
> >
> > I have to give it another try later.
> >
> > :)
>
> Just in case:
>
> 1. Did you try different browsers?
> 2. How much memory do you allocate to the browser?
> 3. First copy the file on your hard disk, then upload the copy.

I don't have other borwsers on the Mac.
I will try that.
Tnx.

L Major
10-23-2003, 09:06 AM
"Steve" <nobodyNOSPAM[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BBBC3B09026D148DF0284600[at]netnews.comcast.net...
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 9:46:06 -0700, L Major wrote
> (in message <1066841079.151461[at]ananke.eclipse.net.uk>):
>
> > <snip>
> <SNIP>
> > Thank you for the help.
> >
> >
> >
> > I run a web server on one box [open to public] and another on my dev
machine
> > winXP pro which I use for programming and web design and bug fixing.
> >
> >
> >
> > I wrote a simple UPLOAD script in PHP.
> >
> >
> >
> > I use a browser to load the upload page and it has a form which allows
you
> > to upload files to the server. It is similar to any uploads you will
find in
> > any forum scripts where you can upload images or zips.
> >
> >
> >
> > Such scripts are OS independent and would work with any browser on any
OS.
> > Other benefit is that there would not be any file format problems.
>
> I guess that I would say *should* work with any browser. Some browsers are
> not as standards compliant as others. Might be worth trying another
browser
> if nothing else works.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > AFA networking, I understand what you mean. What I meant was that none
of
> > the boxes are able to see other boxes or have any interaction except via
> > internet protocols as if they are connecting to a remote site anywhere
> > around the world [I can explain further if needed].
>
> No further explanation needed. Just wanted to make sure we were both
talking
> the same lingo.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > There is no file sharing of any sort. As mentioned I tried and uploaded
a 30
> > mb files from one box to another in less than 15 seconds without any
hassle
> > from browser.
> >
> >
> >
> > I uploaded a 1 mb files from the Mac but got cut off in case of 8 mb
one. I
> > was trying to find out if Mac is cutting off the connection or is it the
> > server.
>
> As you say, standard internet protocols are standard. I can think of no
> reason that the Mac would stop the tcp/ip connection.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > I have increased the time out limit of the server and will try again
once I
> > have more time. The 8100 Ethernet is very slow in comparison to current
> > ones.
>
> I would imagine that it is noticeably slower, yet it should not force a
> timeout issue. There should be plenty of speed to transfer packets unless
the
> Apache server is set for excessively tight packet loss tolerances. If
upping
> the timeout limit doesn't do it, I would think about downloading a
freeware
> ftp program such as Fetch, or even a trial version of Panic Software's
> Transmit (the older version *should* run on your 8100). If you have
Stuffit
> Deluxe or Expander on the 8100 you should be able to get a compressed
> installer of Fetch or Transmit by first downloading to the Apache server,
> then using a browser to download to the 8100. Fetch and Transmit are so
easy
> to use that you don't even need to use a manual if you have ever used an
FTP
> program before. If you set up FTP services on the Apache, you should be
able
> to initiate a FTP connection from the 8100 and upload files all day long.
>
> Good luck
>
> Steve C
Thank you.
I will try it.
:)

L Major
10-23-2003, 09:06 AM
"Steve" <nobodyNOSPAM[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BBBC3B09026D148DF0284600[at]netnews.comcast.net...
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 9:46:06 -0700, L Major wrote
> (in message <1066841079.151461[at]ananke.eclipse.net.uk>):
>
> > <snip>
> <SNIP>
> > Thank you for the help.
> >
> >
> >
> > I run a web server on one box [open to public] and another on my dev
machine
> > winXP pro which I use for programming and web design and bug fixing.
> >
> >
> >
> > I wrote a simple UPLOAD script in PHP.
> >
> >
> >
> > I use a browser to load the upload page and it has a form which allows
you
> > to upload files to the server. It is similar to any uploads you will
find in
> > any forum scripts where you can upload images or zips.
> >
> >
> >
> > Such scripts are OS independent and would work with any browser on any
OS.
> > Other benefit is that there would not be any file format problems.
>
> I guess that I would say *should* work with any browser. Some browsers are
> not as standards compliant as others. Might be worth trying another
browser
> if nothing else works.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > AFA networking, I understand what you mean. What I meant was that none
of
> > the boxes are able to see other boxes or have any interaction except via
> > internet protocols as if they are connecting to a remote site anywhere
> > around the world [I can explain further if needed].
>
> No further explanation needed. Just wanted to make sure we were both
talking
> the same lingo.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > There is no file sharing of any sort. As mentioned I tried and uploaded
a 30
> > mb files from one box to another in less than 15 seconds without any
hassle
> > from browser.
> >
> >
> >
> > I uploaded a 1 mb files from the Mac but got cut off in case of 8 mb
one. I
> > was trying to find out if Mac is cutting off the connection or is it the
> > server.
>
> As you say, standard internet protocols are standard. I can think of no
> reason that the Mac would stop the tcp/ip connection.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > I have increased the time out limit of the server and will try again
once I
> > have more time. The 8100 Ethernet is very slow in comparison to current
> > ones.
>
> I would imagine that it is noticeably slower, yet it should not force a
> timeout issue. There should be plenty of speed to transfer packets unless
the
> Apache server is set for excessively tight packet loss tolerances. If
upping
> the timeout limit doesn't do it, I would think about downloading a
freeware
> ftp program such as Fetch, or even a trial version of Panic Software's
> Transmit (the older version *should* run on your 8100). If you have
Stuffit
> Deluxe or Expander on the 8100 you should be able to get a compressed
> installer of Fetch or Transmit by first downloading to the Apache server,
> then using a browser to download to the 8100. Fetch and Transmit are so
easy
> to use that you don't even need to use a manual if you have ever used an
FTP
> program before. If you set up FTP services on the Apache, you should be
able
> to initiate a FTP connection from the 8100 and upload files all day long.
>
> Good luck
>
> Steve C
Thank you.
I will try it.
:)

koyaanisqatsi
11-25-2003, 11:42 PM
X-No-Archive: yes

Hi, L:

You might consider a SCSI adaptor card ( Adaptec seems to be the leader
here, but may not be the most inexpensive ) for for PC/Linux system. The
question would then be whether your optical drive is supported under
Linux--that info should be available thru some Linux optical drive FAQ.
If so, you could either copy the files or keep the optical disks.

Pete


L Major wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have an old mac [8100/80] and a bunch of optical disks which I used to
> store my artwork on. I have not been using it much for a couple of years.
>
> I wanted to transer my artwork to my current computer [PC/linux] for
> archiving as there may not be a lot of life left in the 8100.
>
> I have a server and set up a file upload page and tried to zip and upload
> the files via ethernet but IE5 gets cut off after couple of minutes. I am
> able to upload small files [under 1 mg] but that way it would take a long
> time [around 2 gb of data].
>
> Artworks are on 128/230 optical disks on a SCSI optical drive.
>
> Any suggestion of how I could transfer the files?
>
> They are generally gif/jpg and photoshop files.
>
> Many thanks for the help
>
> :)
>
>




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