thanks for the replys. my original:

> This morning my desktop G4, which had been performing flawlessly, would
> not wake up. after a hard restart i got the blinking hard disk icon.
> then i shut off the power and it started up normally, worked fine for a
> few minutes, and then froze. again, hard restart gave blinking HD, shut
> off power and restart worked OK. then i put in the jaguar CD, ran disk
> utility, and it couldn't see the HD! fiddled some more, ran fsck, and
> it said disk was OK. tried again, got utility to work, it said disk is
> OK too. now starting from power off doesn't work anymore, machine is
> totally dead.

can be updated. we checked and improved many connections, checked the
batt, etc. it appears that the system takes a very long time to find my
ultra-scsi drive. the flashing icon can go 5 min or so before it finds
the drive. today the system worked fine for maybe 5 hrs, then froze.
the same behavior from yesterday repeated - hard restart (reset) gave
the blinking HD icon, but now it went on for maybe 15 min. when i shut
off the power and started up again, it found the drive immediately. the
problem seems to be finding the drive.

tom

Just a thought...can you still reset the PRAM in OSX?
Probably not...
If it were OS 8 or 9, I'd rebuild the desktop a couple of times and dump
the PRAM. See what happened. You may not be able to do that with OSX.
I haven't learned OSX yet, as you can tell! <g>

keith whaley

tom keyes wrote:
>
> thanks for the replys. my original:
>
> > This morning my desktop G4, which had been performing flawlessly, would
> > not wake up. after a hard restart i got the blinking hard disk icon.
> > then i shut off the power and it started up normally, worked fine for a
> > few minutes, and then froze. again, hard restart gave blinking HD, shut
> > off power and restart worked OK. then i put in the jaguar CD, ran disk
> > utility, and it couldn't see the HD! fiddled some more, ran fsck, and
> > it said disk was OK. tried again, got utility to work, it said disk is
> > OK too. now starting from power off doesn't work anymore, machine is
> > totally dead.
>
> can be updated. we checked and improved many connections, checked the
> batt, etc. it appears that the system takes a very long time to find my
> ultra-scsi drive. the flashing icon can go 5 min or so before it finds
> the drive. today the system worked fine for maybe 5 hrs, then froze.
> the same behavior from yesterday repeated - hard restart (reset) gave
> the blinking HD icon, but now it went on for maybe 15 min. when i shut
> off the power and started up again, it found the drive immediately. the
> problem seems to be finding the drive.
>
> tom

In article <3F42D415.F136066[at]dslextreme.com>, Keith Whaley
<keith_w[at]dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Just a thought...can you still reset the PRAM in OSX?
> Probably not...

Why do you figure that? Its information isn't as extensively used in
OSX as in previous systems (network and video settings are no longer
stored there), but it's there, and it is resettable:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238



Worth a shot! ;-)

--
Garner R. Miller
Manchester, CT =USA=

Hi,
Sounds like HDD going South.
Have good back up yet?
Tony

tom keyes wrote:
> thanks for the replys. my original:
>
>
>>This morning my desktop G4, which had been performing flawlessly, would
>>not wake up. after a hard restart i got the blinking hard disk icon.
>>then i shut off the power and it started up normally, worked fine for a
>>few minutes, and then froze. again, hard restart gave blinking HD, shut
>>off power and restart worked OK. then i put in the jaguar CD, ran disk
>>utility, and it couldn't see the HD! fiddled some more, ran fsck, and
>>it said disk was OK. tried again, got utility to work, it said disk is
>>OK too. now starting from power off doesn't work anymore, machine is
>>totally dead.
>
>
> can be updated. we checked and improved many connections, checked the
> batt, etc. it appears that the system takes a very long time to find my
> ultra-scsi drive. the flashing icon can go 5 min or so before it finds
> the drive. today the system worked fine for maybe 5 hrs, then froze.
> the same behavior from yesterday repeated - hard restart (reset) gave
> the blinking HD icon, but now it went on for maybe 15 min. when i shut
> off the power and started up again, it found the drive immediately. the
> problem seems to be finding the drive.
>
> tom

Garner Miller wrote:
>
> In article <3F42D415.F136066[at]dslextreme.com>, Keith Whaley
> <keith_w[at]dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> > Just a thought...can you still reset the PRAM in OSX?
> > Probably not...
>
> Why do you figure that?

I figured that once Apple abandoned it's previous operating system for a
UNIX-based one, perhaps the PRAM would go away. Seems my reasoning was
illogical! <g>

> Its information isn't as extensively used in
> OSX as in previous systems (network and video settings are no longer
> stored there), but it's there, and it is resettable:
>
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238
>
> Worth a shot! ;-)

Indeed so! Thanks for the data source URL.

keith whaley
>
> --
> Garner R. Miller
> Manchester, CT =USA=