View Full Version : Help with 6500 and Kingston NIC card


Shawn Trimble
08-12-2003, 01:19 AM
Hello,

I'm looking for anyone who might have some advice for installing a Kingston
KNE110TX PCI Ethernet card into a PowerMac 6500/275 running OS 9.0. Bear
with me, I am still a bit of a newbie to the Mac platform!



Here's the deal: I am trying to connect my Mac to a D-Link DI-704 router
(which in turn connects to a SBC DSL modem and my Win XP PC). At this
point, I'd be happy just to get Internet connectivity on the Mac, though I
ultimately hope to be able to network the two through the router. I know
the modem/router work fine with the PC, and the Ethernet card was working
just fine when I took it out of my old PC just days ago. (It' active three
green lights are a good sign).



So here's what I've done: I've removed the old GeoPort modem out of the
Comm2 slot, and installed the NIC card on one of the PCI slots. I have the
original Mac driver disc (version 3.1) AND downloaded the latest driver
(3.3), which supposedly addresses some OS 9 compatibility issues. When I
tried to install the 3.3 driver software, I got a confirmation of success
from the installer program, but no "Ethernet" option is given to me in the
"connect via" fields in either AppleTalk or TCP/IP Control Panel, so
something is still wrong (is there a specific folder on the hard drive I
need to specify "install to"?)



So, I tried the original (3.1) driver disc, and I seem to have some success,
and can select "connect to: Ethernet" in both AppleTalk and TCP/IP. I am
also able to Input "DHCP server" in TCP/IP (and left everything else blank).
Only problem, I can't seem to connect to the router this way. I have walked
through the Internet Connection wizard to specify network connection. I
have turned on file sharing and program linking, to no avail. I downloaded
the MacPing demo, and it wasn't able to ping, suggesting the network is not
active.



So, any suggestions? As I say, I am pretty new to this, so there may be
some simple thing I am omitting, especially as it applies to installing
drivers and the mysteriously foreboding Extensions panel. If someone has
any suggestions (or a relevant FAQ), I'd sure appreciate it!



Sincerely,
Shawn

Shawn Trimble
08-12-2003, 03:19 PM
Thanks Greg, Here's what I have when I install ver 3.1 (3.3 extension isn't
recognized when I put it in the Ext. Folder... it shows as active in the
Ext.manager, but does not show up as a "connect to" option in AppleTalk or
TCP/IP)

"Greg De Villiers" wrote:
> Appletalk has 4 options: Modem Port, Printer Port, Ethernet Built-in and
> Ethernet Slot B1.

I have "Modem Port", "Printer Port", "and Remote Only"; the 3.1 Extension
show up just as "Ethernet".

> yours should at least have the Ethernet Slot <PCI-ID> which would be the
> Kingston card if correctly installed.
> If it does not, make sure the following appear in your extensions folder:
> Kingston PCI Ethernet <ver id>
> Apple Enet
> AppleShare
> OpenTptappleTalkLib

Well, I have the following: "Apple Ethernet CS II", "AppleShare", and
"Kingston PCI Ethernet KNE110". I can't find anything called
"OpenTptappleTalkLib" on the drive in any folder.

> If they are, launch Apple System Profiler and check and report the
> following two things:
> "System Info" Tab:
> Network Overview

No apple modem found
Open Transport 2.6 installed & active, AppleTalk 60 installed & active, file
sharing on, default appletalk zone is n/a, active network port is PCI B1,
this network is 62580, node is 16, router not available.
TCPIP 2.6 installed & active, web sharing and multihoming is off, netmask &
ip & default ip gateway & domain & name server are n/a.

> "Device and Volumes" Tab:
> PCI (Is the card reported here?)

AA PCI card is reported in slot $B1 of "not available" identification. It
has a "name" of "pci2646, f002" revision 32, vendor ID 11AD, model and ROM
are n/a. I'm presuming this is it? The card is in the "top" PCI slot in
the expander.

Oddly, the "device & volumes" tab also shows a "display card" in pci slot
$f1. There is nothing there, however. I think the prior owner had an ATI
3D card, but I beleive I disabled all the related extensions. Not sure why
I am seeing the "phantom" card. By the way, I DID reset the CUDA and PRAM
after struggling with this a bit.

Any thoughts?

Tony Hwang
08-13-2003, 06:29 AM
Hi,
Is your CAT 5 cable a straight thru one(not cross over or anything)?
Enable DHCP, gateway is the router IP, mask is usually 255.255.255.0.
That's all there is to it. I just went thru same at my kids' condo.
Daughter's iBook, son's Toshiba notebook networked thru SMC wireless
router for cable modem. I am a NEWBIE on Mac stuffs but this was a no
brainer. From router, can you see the NIC card you installed?
Did it get an IP assigned by router?
Tony


Shawn Trimble wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for anyone who might have some advice for installing a Kingston
> KNE110TX PCI Ethernet card into a PowerMac 6500/275 running OS 9.0. Bear
> with me, I am still a bit of a newbie to the Mac platform!
>
>
>
> Here's the deal: I am trying to connect my Mac to a D-Link DI-704 router
> (which in turn connects to a SBC DSL modem and my Win XP PC). At this
> point, I'd be happy just to get Internet connectivity on the Mac, though I
> ultimately hope to be able to network the two through the router. I know
> the modem/router work fine with the PC, and the Ethernet card was working
> just fine when I took it out of my old PC just days ago. (It' active three
> green lights are a good sign).
>
>
>
> So here's what I've done: I've removed the old GeoPort modem out of the
> Comm2 slot, and installed the NIC card on one of the PCI slots. I have the
> original Mac driver disc (version 3.1) AND downloaded the latest driver
> (3.3), which supposedly addresses some OS 9 compatibility issues. When I
> tried to install the 3.3 driver software, I got a confirmation of success
> from the installer program, but no "Ethernet" option is given to me in the
> "connect via" fields in either AppleTalk or TCP/IP Control Panel, so
> something is still wrong (is there a specific folder on the hard drive I
> need to specify "install to"?)
>
>
>
> So, I tried the original (3.1) driver disc, and I seem to have some success,
> and can select "connect to: Ethernet" in both AppleTalk and TCP/IP. I am
> also able to Input "DHCP server" in TCP/IP (and left everything else blank).
> Only problem, I can't seem to connect to the router this way. I have walked
> through the Internet Connection wizard to specify network connection. I
> have turned on file sharing and program linking, to no avail. I downloaded
> the MacPing demo, and it wasn't able to ping, suggesting the network is not
> active.
>
>
>
> So, any suggestions? As I say, I am pretty new to this, so there may be
> some simple thing I am omitting, especially as it applies to installing
> drivers and the mysteriously foreboding Extensions panel. If someone has
> any suggestions (or a relevant FAQ), I'd sure appreciate it!
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Shawn
>
>

Greg De Villiers
08-14-2003, 08:23 AM
In article <bI6_a.533$Ph7.234[at]newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>,
"Shawn Trimble" <fate7[at]removespam.swbell.net> wrote:

> Thanks Greg, Here's what I have when I install ver 3.1 (3.3 extension isn't
> recognized when I put it in the Ext. Folder... it shows as active in the
> Ext.manager, but does not show up as a "connect to" option in AppleTalk or
> TCP/IP)


> > yours should at least have the Ethernet Slot <PCI-ID> which would be the
> > Kingston card if correctly installed.
> > If it does not, make sure the following appear in your extensions folder:
> > Kingston PCI Ethernet <ver id>
> > Apple Enet
> > AppleShare
> > OpenTptappleTalkLib
>
> Well, I have the following: "Apple Ethernet CS II", "AppleShare", and
> "Kingston PCI Ethernet KNE110". I can't find anything called
> "OpenTptappleTalkLib" on the drive in any folder.
>


KNE110? Mine says KNE30 - maybe your ver is wrong for your card?


Get that Open transport apple talk library from the Tomes on the OS disk

> sharing on, default appletalk zone is n/a, active network port is PCI B1,
> this network is 62580, node is 16, router not available.
> TCPIP 2.6 installed & active, web sharing and multihoming is off, netmask &
> ip & default ip gateway & domain & name server are n/a.


it seems to half-recognise it. very strange - anything on Kingston's
website?

Greg